From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EcU6s-00051D-Cv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:42:26 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAGKf2Bl011448; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:41:02 GMT Received: from popmail.jettissystems.com (popmail.jettissystems.com [38.118.146.212]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAGKUUpG007692 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:30:31 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.104] (unknown [69.17.21.212]) by popmail.jettissystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501F056D481 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:30:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <437B96E4.5030507@badapple.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600 From: kashani User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path? References: <9999810b0511160820h648eb1a5o4f62300507c2b8a9@mail.gmail.com> <20051117090935.27DE.NICK@rout.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <20051117090935.27DE.NICK@rout.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ae0f58ea-00fc-4687-8047-259afa7e3ec1 X-Archives-Hash: 37dab36bdfebceee585dfaa122a0745d Nick Rout wrote: > I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the > handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 > handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an > instal on other architectures). > > Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: > > "Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a > stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore." > > WTF? When did this happen? > About a week or two ago and was heavily discussed on gentoo-doc IIRC. Here's a rough summary. stage1 is the cause of a number of circular dependency issues, it takes forever, the engineering and release team spends too much time on it, and the average Gentoo users get no benefit from doing a stage1 over a stage3. In order to get any benefit from stage1 you must edit the boot strap scripts in some way. Editting the boot strap scripts is not documented and not something general users should be mucking around in so we're going to drop everything, but stage3 on the CD. Or at least that was my interpretation. I stopped paying attention around this point, but there was talk of keeping a stage1 for devs or people who need it... though I don't think exactly what or where was ever fully hashed out. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list