[gentoo-user] NTFS resizing

[gentoo-user] NTFS resizing

[Pingveno]

I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition to fit Gentoo on a new laptop. As 
recommended by countless sources all over the Internet, I am using 
Knoppix & Qtparted for resizing. However, QTParted complains about 
accounting errors in the NTFS filesystem (yes, I know that's redundant). 
After a little bit of Google searching, I discovered I needed to use 
chkdsk on Windows with the /f switch to fix the errors. Easy. Of course, 
chkdsk alerted me that it can't modify a running NTFS system. Okay, so I 
do what it recommends to me: let the checking be run after a reboot.

None of this is exactly extraordinary. However, there is the slight 
problem that chkdsk never actually runs at start up. No bueno. Any 
tricks to con it into working?

-Pingveno

P.S. This is a Thinkpad T43

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS resizing

[Grimaldy Soto]

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I suposed that if the partition is in use it's because is the main
partition, if not you can use the /x option for chkdsk if will force a
dismount, anyway why you no resize the partition with a partition manager
like partition magic.

Its better and faster and course lets dangerous that making inside from
linux.

On 11/12/05, Pingveno <pingveno@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition to fit Gentoo on a new laptop. As
> recommended by countless sources all over the Internet, I am using
> Knoppix & Qtparted for resizing. However, QTParted complains about
> accounting errors in the NTFS filesystem (yes, I know that's redundant).
> After a little bit of Google searching, I discovered I needed to use
> chkdsk on Windows with the /f switch to fix the errors. Easy. Of course,
> chkdsk alerted me that it can't modify a running NTFS system. Okay, so I
> do what it recommends to me: let the checking be run after a reboot.
>
> None of this is exactly extraordinary. However, there is the slight
> problem that chkdsk never actually runs at start up. No bueno. Any
> tricks to con it into working?
>
> -Pingveno
>
> P.S. This is a Thinkpad T43
>
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>
>


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[gentoo-user] Re: NTFS resizing

[Pingveno]

Yeah, this is the main partition. According to the web sites I have 
read, there should be no problem with what I'm doing, even with this 
being the boot partition.

Here's the message I get when I run "chkdsk /f":
<output>
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N) Y

This volume will be checked the next time the system restarts.
</output>

Yet when I restart, there is no unusual lag in the start up (which would 
be necessary to scan an entire hard drive). I also continue getting the 
message, upon running chkdsk without /f, that I need to do chkdsk /f. Weird.

-Pingveno

Grimaldy Soto wrote:
> I suposed that if the partition is in use it's because is the main 
> partition, if not you can use the /x option for chkdsk if will force a 
> dismount, anyway why you no resize the partition with a partition 
> manager like partition magic.
> 
> Its better and faster and course lets dangerous that making inside from 
> linux.
> 
> On 11/12/05, *Pingveno* < pingveno@comcast.net 
> <mailto:pingveno@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition to fit Gentoo on a new
>     laptop. As
>     recommended by countless sources all over the Internet, I am using
>     Knoppix & Qtparted for resizing. However, QTParted complains about
>     accounting errors in the NTFS filesystem (yes, I know that's redundant).
>     After a little bit of Google searching, I discovered I needed to use
>     chkdsk on Windows with the /f switch to fix the errors. Easy. Of course,
>     chkdsk alerted me that it can't modify a running NTFS system. Okay, so I
>     do what it recommends to me: let the checking be run after a reboot.
> 
>     None of this is exactly extraordinary. However, there is the slight
>     problem that chkdsk never actually runs at start up. No bueno. Any
>     tricks to con it into working?
> 
>     -Pingveno
> 
>     P.S. This is a Thinkpad T43
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> "We must agree that the beauty of a work of art will always remain a
> mystery, in other words, we can never be absolutely sure 'how it's made.'
> We must at all costs preserve this magic which is peculiar to music and to
> which, by its nature, music is of all arts the most receptive."
> -Claude Debussy-


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NTFS resizing

[abhay]

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On Sunday 13 Nov 2005 8:43 am, Pingveno wrote:
> Yeah, this is the main partition. According to the web sites I have
> read, there should be no problem with what I'm doing, even with this
> being the boot partition.
>
> Here's the message I get when I run "chkdsk /f":
> <output>
> The type of the file system is NTFS.
> Cannot lock current drive.
>
> Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
> process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
> checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N) Y
>
> This volume will be checked the next time the system restarts.
> </output>
>
> Yet when I restart, there is no unusual lag in the start up (which would
> be necessary to scan an entire hard drive). I also continue getting the
> message, upon running chkdsk without /f, that I need to do chkdsk /f.
> Weird.
>
> -Pingveno
Looks like some how dirty bit setting has been disabled on your drive which is 
essential for running chkdsk at boot time. Try running fsutil to query/set 
the dirty bit on your drive. To read more about fsutil head here
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/ServerHelp/740cb38b-66dc-41e2-9f0b-7f2816c7c2ca.mspx

Abhay

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[gentoo-user] Re: NTFS resizing

[Pingveno]

abhay wrote:
> On Sunday 13 Nov 2005 8:43 am, Pingveno wrote:
>> Yeah, this is the main partition. According to the web sites I have
>> read, there should be no problem with what I'm doing, even with this
>> being the boot partition.
>>
>> Here's the message I get when I run "chkdsk /f":
>> <output>
>> The type of the file system is NTFS.
>> Cannot lock current drive.
>>
>> Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
>> process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
>> checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N) Y
>>
>> This volume will be checked the next time the system restarts.
>> </output>
>>
>> Yet when I restart, there is no unusual lag in the start up (which would
>> be necessary to scan an entire hard drive). I also continue getting the
>> message, upon running chkdsk without /f, that I need to do chkdsk /f.
>> Weird.
>>
>> -Pingveno
> Looks like some how dirty bit setting has been disabled on your drive which is 
> essential for running chkdsk at boot time. Try running fsutil to query/set 
> the dirty bit on your drive. To read more about fsutil head here
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/ServerHelp/740cb38b-66dc-41e2-9f0b-7f2816c7c2ca.mspx
> 
> Abhay
Strange. Even when I set the dirty bit and restart, no check was done. I 
think it's time to call up IBM. Maybe one of their wonderful 
contraptions is stopping chkdsk at startup >_<

-Pingveno

-Pingveno

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS resizing

[Dan]

Pingveno wrote:

> I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition to fit Gentoo on a new laptop. 
> As recommended by countless sources all over the Internet, I am using 
> Knoppix & Qtparted for resizing. However, QTParted complains about 
> accounting errors in the NTFS filesystem (yes, I know that's 
> redundant). After a little bit of Google searching, I discovered I 
> needed to use chkdsk on Windows with the /f switch to fix the errors. 
> Easy. Of course, chkdsk alerted me that it can't modify a running NTFS 
> system. Okay, so I do what it recommends to me: let the checking be 
> run after a reboot.
>
> None of this is exactly extraordinary. However, there is the slight 
> problem that chkdsk never actually runs at start up. No bueno. Any 
> tricks to con it into working?
>
> -Pingveno
>
> P.S. This is a Thinkpad T43
>
You can try booting with "bartPE", or a disk you can make with "nlite".

These tools both allow you to create a bootable windows CD in the 
Knoppix style.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NTFS resizing

[Antoine]

> Strange. Even when I set the dirty bit and restart, no check was done. I 
> think it's time to call up IBM. Maybe one of their wonderful 
> contraptions is stopping chkdsk at startup >_<

I don't know why you are having these problems... I had no probs at all 
with rescuecd. Just burn and boot (then follow the instructions you have 
previously printed...).
Cheers
Antoine
ps. there is a really good site on ntfsresize
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