From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EawNv-0001yU-P1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:29:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jACEShsf012193; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:28:43 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jACEOtsI027991 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:24:56 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z3so559882nzf for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:24:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ic+U30UxpGYDE+NfQ8a3D7PTIHOILDRD/7Ac/jTn2etoUx00X2CpsvCSb5Zs1bGe27hg9pBR4hq6t/W50sjXOPK9ncDmiAYD415EAB/EqExMB2mpzEZq91v1OuQYbwbXjAPJkT+Lx8jVlKyay8B+CywYlTosCusQigFTsN+7vp4= Received: by 10.36.177.11 with SMTP id z11mr2305654nze; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?210.211.144.159? ( [210.211.144.159]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 16sm754731nzo.2005.11.12.06.24.54; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:24:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4375FB34.4060405@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:54:52 +0530 From: Mrugesh Karnik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox References: <4373B770.3060108@gmail.com> <7573e9640511101335rf1d1820n896178d45a560464@mail.gmail.com> <43743438.60202@gmail.com> <7573e9640511102239t88e4ba5m7b4d0c6fb35c737@mail.gmail.com> <43744E76.9050406@gmail.com> <7573e9640511111020i62a48826ta4a3742db554274a@mail.gmail.com> <4375A90C.5080006@gmail.com> <4375F5B5.1010206@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <4375F5B5.1010206@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: af3b7bea-819d-485e-a987-f87c74af3b3e X-Archives-Hash: 310e58fb3b87266f4c44dc781a05191d Holly Bostick wrote: > Possibly because you don't have the 'insecure-drivers' USE flag enabled: I had insecure-drivers enabled the first time I compiled xorg. I think I had disabled it in the subsequent compilations. I found an ebuild with VIA Unichrome USE flag and patches added; in the forums. I'll try that ebuild because it's been reported to have worked. I'll also make sure that I enable insecure-drivers this time! I'll know the results in about an hour and half... Hope it works. > Like most binary distros, the FC RPMs probably enable everything > 'enableable'. I have no idea why the drivers are considered 'insecure', > but assuming they are (which would not surprise me), it's well within > the realm of possibility that they fall under the "you have to know what > you're doing and decide for yourself' section of the Gentoo design > philosopy (which is the major thrust of the Gentoo design philosopy, so > that doesn't surprise me either). > > Why FC 4 would enable them and Gentoo would mark them as insecure.... > well, heck-- FC4 uses GCC 4.0 *by default* as I understand it, and we > have it completely masked (and most other distros don't use it either, > afaik, certainly not by default yet). So since FC4 seems to want to live > even further out on the 'bleeding edge' than we are said to do, again, > I'm not surprised that the drivers would be enabled by default, no > matter their status in terms of security, completeness, or stability. > > HTH, > Holly Hmmm. Well, I love my Gentoo. I can always use the bleeding edge stuff with ~ keywords (As you would already know of course ;))! Anyway, I think Mandriva 2006 also uses GCC 4 by default now. It also comes with xorg 6.8.9*. I read on xorg.freedesktop.org that the new xorg release includes updates from the VIA Unichrome project. I looked into portage and yaay! The VIA drivers package is there.. Only, its -amd64. I am on AMD64. I'm wondering what to do. If all fails, I'll have to buy an NVIDIA AGP card I guess. I love Gentoo too much to remove it just because of this graphics card issue. (Wise choice spending money on an FX5200 just to have Gentoo running??? Well, I can always install UT and say to myself, YES! Wise choice indeed :P ) Regards, Mrugesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list