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From: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:54:52 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4375FB34.4060405@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4375F5B5.1010206@planet.nl>

Holly Bostick wrote:

> Possibly because you don't have the 'insecure-drivers' USE flag enabled:

I had insecure-drivers enabled the first time I compiled xorg. I think I 
had disabled it in the subsequent compilations. I found an ebuild with 
VIA Unichrome USE flag and patches added; in the forums. I'll try that 
ebuild because it's been reported to have worked. I'll also make sure 
that I enable insecure-drivers this time! I'll know the results in about 
an hour and half... Hope it works.

> Like most binary distros, the FC RPMs probably enable everything
> 'enableable'. I have no idea why the drivers are considered 'insecure',
> but assuming they are (which would not surprise me), it's well within
> the realm of possibility that they fall under the "you have to know what
> you're doing and decide for yourself' section of the Gentoo design
> philosopy (which is the major thrust of the Gentoo design philosopy, so
> that doesn't surprise me either).
> 
> Why FC 4 would enable them and Gentoo would mark them as insecure....
> well, heck-- FC4 uses GCC 4.0 *by default* as I understand it, and we
> have it completely masked (and most other distros don't use it either,
> afaik, certainly not by default yet). So since FC4 seems to want to live
> even further out on the 'bleeding edge' than we are said to do, again,
> I'm not surprised that the drivers would be enabled by default, no
> matter their status in terms of security, completeness, or stability.
> 
> HTH,
> Holly

Hmmm. Well, I love my Gentoo. I can always use the bleeding edge stuff 
with ~ keywords (As you would already know of course ;))! Anyway, I 
think Mandriva 2006 also uses GCC 4 by default now. It also comes with 
xorg 6.8.9*. I read on xorg.freedesktop.org that the new xorg release 
includes updates from the VIA Unichrome project. I looked into portage 
and yaay! The VIA drivers package is there.. Only, its -amd64. I am on 
AMD64. I'm wondering what to do.

If all fails, I'll have to buy an NVIDIA AGP card I guess. I love Gentoo 
too much to remove it just because of this graphics card issue. (Wise 
choice spending money on an FX5200 just to have Gentoo running??? Well, 
I can always install UT and say to myself, YES! Wise choice indeed :P )

Regards,
Mrugesh
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-12 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-10 21:11 [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-10 21:35 ` Richard Fish
2005-11-11  6:03   ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-11  6:39     ` Richard Fish
2005-11-11  7:55       ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-11 18:20         ` Richard Fish
2005-11-12  8:34           ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-12 14:01             ` Holly Bostick
2005-11-12 14:24               ` Mrugesh Karnik [this message]
2005-11-12 21:10             ` Richard Fish
2005-11-13  0:13               ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-13 18:44             ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-11-14  8:54               ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-14 20:59                 ` Benno Schulenberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-17 17:25 Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-17 18:56 ` abhay
2005-11-17 21:56 ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-11-18 10:45   ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-18 21:52     ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-11-19  8:48       ` Mrugesh Karnik
2005-11-19  8:56       ` Mrugesh Karnik

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