From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ETIUz-0000tq-SQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:29:22 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9MCPu44004450; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:25:56 GMT Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9MCLovI014517 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:21:51 GMT Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([65.5.209.106]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051022122445.YLLB2217.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:24:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (really [65.5.209.106]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051022122444.YJAV2401.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.103]> for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: <435A2FFD.4010806@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:26:37 -0500 From: Eddie Mihalow Jr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051012) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!! References: <1cc2dc830510211211w7949e57fm79a52ccf90882e37@mail.gmail.com> <200510212124.44005.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <435989DF.8040709@maestroprogramador.com> <200510220512.21455.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> In-Reply-To: <200510220512.21455.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id j9MCPu4O004450 X-Archives-Salt: f96ab09b-9c76-4e50-8151-ea1568f0a8e6 X-Archives-Hash: 40474e66ac0f441d5081d55c7cd92248 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fern=E1ndez L=F3pez wrote: >=20 >>Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: >> >>>On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: >>> >>>>My hole linux box has crashed !!!! >>>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world.... >>>> >>>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql..... today my hole >>>>system is against me.... >>>>I think in reinstall the full system .... has any one got a better >>>>idea, my backups are unavailable now .... >>> >>>what do you mean 'crashed'? >>> >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works? >>> >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep. >> >>Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade >>dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old >>libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower. >=20 >=20 > --deep is totally superflous. > When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway. > So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that th= e=20 > latest are always the fastest too.=20 >=20 > When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe= =20 > douzends of apps, only to have the latest version? >=20 > A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make = some=20 > apps crashy&instabil. > Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in t= he=20 > libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least somet= hing=20 > that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you updat= e=20 > ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs). >=20 > --deep does not solve problems, it generates them. >=20 Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet=20 to have any of these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and=20 xine and they both work fine. I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or=20 just banal thinking? Regards, --=20 Edward A Mihalow Jr Gentoo! Linux Registered Linux User#225662 New Orleans,LA --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list