[gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to have 
this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any 
changes.  What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my 
mouse detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to an 
appropriate web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful with Google.

Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Andreas Kerschbaumer]

Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to have
> this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any
> changes.  What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my
> mouse detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to an
> appropriate web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful with Google.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drew
>
I got the same problem some time ago. Try /dev/input/mice insted of
/dev/input/mouse0.

Andy
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[waltdnes]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote
> I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to
> have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any
> changes.  What things must be loaded or what should I check to get
> my mouse detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to
> an appropriate web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful
> with Google.

  Plan a) Does gpm work in text mode?  If yes, "cat /etc/conf.d/gpm"
          and see what device it lists as being used.

  Plan b) Start off with the command "ls -al -R /dev > list.txt" and
          view list.txt with your favourite editor or file-viewer.
          Look under "/dev/input".  Also check for "/dev/mouse" or
          "/dev/mice" or "/dev/psaux" or "/dev/misc/".  You should find
          something somewhere.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/6/2005 1:24 PM Andreas Kerschbaumer wrote:

>Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to have
>>this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any
>>changes.  What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my
>>mouse detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to an
>>appropriate web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful with Google.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>    
>>
>I got the same problem some time ago. Try /dev/input/mice insted of
>/dev/input/mouse0.
>
>Andy
>  
>
Thanks.  I do have /dev/input/mice and putting that into xorg.conf 
solves the error.  However the mouse doesn't work.  Here is the relevant 
section of my xorg.conf:

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Please note I only have one mouse.  It part of a wireless Logitec 
mouse/keyboard combo and plugs into the standard PS/2 mouse socket.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/6/2005 6:08 PM waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote
>  
>
>>I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to
>>have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any
>>changes.  What things must be loaded or what should I check to get
>>my mouse detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to
>>an appropriate web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful
>>with Google.
>>    
>>
>
>  Plan a) Does gpm work in text mode?  If yes, "cat /etc/conf.d/gpm"
>          and see what device it lists as being used.
>  
>
Thanks for your reply.  I don't have gpm installed.

>  Plan b) Start off with the command "ls -al -R /dev > list.txt" and
>          view list.txt with your favourite editor or file-viewer.
>          Look under "/dev/input".  Also check for "/dev/mouse" or
>          "/dev/mice" or "/dev/psaux" or "/dev/misc/".  You should find
>          something somewhere.
>  
>
I'm not exactly sure what I should be looking for.  I use this box to 
run MythTV.  I know /dev/input/mouse0 used to exist and work.  I've been 
away for 6 weeks.  At one point while I was gone, the power went out at 
home.  However today when I tried to get the system up and running, I 
booted, Xorg started, and MythTV started.  I used a utility (as I have 
in the past) called nvtv to adjust the screen position.  When using 
this, I set something wrong (as I have in the past) and the screen was 
no longer viewable via SVGA on my TV.  As I've done previously, I used 
ssh from another computer and issued a 'shutdown -r now'.  Ever since 
that reboot, xorg complains about /dev/input/mouse0 not being there.

Here's the items I have from your suggestions:

drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/misc
crw-rw----  1 root root 10,   1 Sep  6 06:16 psaux

drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/input
crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 63 Sep  6 06:16 mice

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 10 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/psaux -> misc/psaux

Does any of this make sense?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[W.Kenworthy]

The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when
it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.

To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.

BillK


On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 20:31 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> On 9/6/2005 6:08 PM waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote
> >  

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[waltdnes]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:32PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote

> Here's the items I have from your suggestions:
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/misc
> crw-rw----  1 root root 10,   1 Sep  6 06:16 psaux
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 0 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/input
> crw-r--r--  1 root root 13, 63 Sep  6 06:16 mice
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 10 Sep  6 06:16 /dev/psaux -> misc/psaux
> 
> Does any of this make sense?

  You can replace "/dev/input/mouse0" in xorg.conf with any one of...
  "/dev/input/mice" or "/dev/psaux" or "dev/misc/psaux".

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:

>The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
>  
>
I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb.  Sorry for the 
simple questions.  What module should I look for?  How can I check to 
see if it's loaded?

>newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
>exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
>ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
>three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
>are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.
>  
>
Thanks for the explanation.

>To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
>print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.
>
>  
>
No rubbish.  Not working.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[W.Kenworthy]

use lsmod to get the module list.  The modules are usbmouse and psmouse
(not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) .  Note that
you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have
them. If they dont show in "lsmod", try "modprobe psmouse" etc.

BillK


On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
> 
> >The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
> >  
> >
> I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb.  Sorry for the 
> simple questions.  What module should I look for?  How can I check to 
> see if it's loaded?
> 
> >newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
> >exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
> >ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
> >three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
> >are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.
> >  
> >
> Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> >To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
> >print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.
> >
> >  
> >
> No rubbish.  Not working.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Drew
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:03:09PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> No rubbish.  Not working.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
That means it is not an X problem, but a problem at the kernel
(unlikely) or your hardware. 

You said it is part of a wireless combo? Try changing the battery. I
also have a wireless mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech (actually
Logitech rebranded as Acer), the keyboard runs on a single AAA for
over two years now and is still going, but I've had to change the
batteries for my mouse every three months. I think it has to do with
the fact that it is an optical mouse and the little red LED just keeps
going.... On my mouse, when the battery dies, the LED will still be
working for a bit, but the batteries won't provide enough voltage to
drive other electronics, and so while it seems like the mouse should
work, it actually doesn't. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[cbeamer]

Drew Tomlinson writes: 

> I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist.  I used to have 
> this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes.  
> What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse 
> detected?  I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev.  Nudges to an appropriate 
> web page are welcome.  I have been unsuccessful with Google.

If you have a ps2 mouse, try /dev/psaux for the mouse in your xorg.conf 
file. 

Regards, 

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/6/2005 10:00 PM Willie Wong wrote:

>On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:03:09PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>  
>
>>No rubbish.  Not working.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>    
>>
>That means it is not an X problem, but a problem at the kernel
>(unlikely) or your hardware. 
>
>You said it is part of a wireless combo? Try changing the battery. I
>also have a wireless mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech (actually
>Logitech rebranded as Acer), the keyboard runs on a single AAA for
>over two years now and is still going, but I've had to change the
>batteries for my mouse every three months. I think it has to do with
>the fact that it is an optical mouse and the little red LED just keeps
>going.... On my mouse, when the battery dies, the LED will still be
>working for a bit, but the batteries won't provide enough voltage to
>drive other electronics, and so while it seems like the mouse should
>work, it actually doesn't. 
>  
>
This could be the problem as the mouse batteries have been in for at 
least 2 months.  Like you, I assumed the mouse should work as it did the 
first time I rebooted because the red light is still on.  I'll try it 
tonight when I get home.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:

>use lsmod to get the module list.  The modules are usbmouse and psmouse
>(not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) .  Note that
>you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have
>them. If they dont show in "lsmod", try "modprobe psmouse" etc.
>  
>
Thanks for the reply.  I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod 
output.  Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either:

tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse
FATAL: Module psmouse not found.
tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse 
FATAL: Module usbmouse not found.

Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used 
them.  I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster 
suggested.  If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further.

Thanks,

Drew

>On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>  
>
>>On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb.  Sorry for the 
>>simple questions.  What module should I look for?  How can I check to 
>>see if it's loaded?
>>
>>    
>>
>>>newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
>>>exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
>>>ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
>>>three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
>>>are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
>>>print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>No rubbish.  Not working.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Drew
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist

[William Kenworthy]

If they worked previously, they are probably compiled into the kernel.
I find this is a mistake unless you have a specific reason for doing so
- being able to remove/add modules helps track down weird problems like
this, and some things just work best as a module.  I take it that it is
a usb wireless mouse ? (coz of the batteries).  If so, monitor the
syslog while adding or removing the usb plug.  If its recognised, you
will see messages.  I doubt the batteries are the problem as with a
wireless mouse, its the base unit that when plugged in will cause
the /dev node to be created and you dont have them.

If I am wrong about the mouse, exactly what type of mouse and ports are
you trying to use (as you have probably gathered, this has a bearing on
whats happening)

BillK


On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:00 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
> 
> >use lsmod to get the module list.  The modules are usbmouse and psmouse
> >(not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) .  Note that
> >you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have
> >them. If they dont show in "lsmod", try "modprobe psmouse" etc.
> >  
> >
> Thanks for the reply.  I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod 
> output.  Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either:
> 
> tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse
> FATAL: Module psmouse not found.
> tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse 
> FATAL: Module usbmouse not found.
> 
> Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used 
> them.  I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster 
> suggested.  If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Drew
> 
> >On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb.  Sorry for the 
> >>simple questions.  What module should I look for?  How can I check to 
> >>see if it's loaded?
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
> >>>exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
> >>>ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
> >>>three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
> >>>are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Thanks for the explanation.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
> >>>print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>No rubbish.  Not working.
> >>
> >>Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >>Drew
> >>
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist -- SOLVED!!!

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 9/7/2005 4:09 PM William Kenworthy wrote:

>If they worked previously, they are probably compiled into the kernel.
>I find this is a mistake unless you have a specific reason for doing so
>- being able to remove/add modules helps track down weird problems like
>  
>
I have no specific reason.  I will note this for my next kernel build.

>this, and some things just work best as a module.  I take it that it is
>a usb wireless mouse ? (coz of the batteries).  If so, monitor the
>syslog while adding or removing the usb plug.  If its recognised, you
>will see messages.  I doubt the batteries are the problem as with a
>wireless mouse, its the base unit that when plugged in will cause
>the /dev node to be created and you dont have them.
>  
>
Kind of.  It's a Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo.  One of the 
outputs (I think it's the mouse) is USB but I have it plugged into one 
of those converter thingys so it is essentially a PS/2 mouse.  The other 
output is a standard PS/2 jack.

But your suggestion prompted me to unplug/plug the mouse in.  Must have 
been loose because after doing so, I had /dev/input/mouse0 and after a 
reboot, X windows starts and the mouse works fine.

Thanks for all of your help!

Drew

>If I am wrong about the mouse, exactly what type of mouse and ports are
>you trying to use (as you have probably gathered, this has a bearing on
>whats happening)
>
>BillK
>
>
>On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:00 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>  
>
>>On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>use lsmod to get the module list.  The modules are usbmouse and psmouse
>>>(not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) .  Note that
>>>you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have
>>>them. If they dont show in "lsmod", try "modprobe psmouse" etc.
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Thanks for the reply.  I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod 
>>output.  Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either:
>>
>>tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse
>>FATAL: Module psmouse not found.
>>tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse 
>>FATAL: Module usbmouse not found.
>>
>>Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used 
>>them.  I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster 
>>suggested.  If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded?  /dev/mouse is usually (on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb.  Sorry for the 
>>>>simple questions.  What module should I look for?  How can I check to 
>>>>see if it's loaded?
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it
>>>>>exists.  /dev/input/mice is a concentrator.  i.e., on my laptop I have a
>>>>>ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse.  All
>>>>>three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time.  Individually they
>>>>>are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the explanation.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>To test try "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse - rubbish will
>>>>>print to terminal if its working.  CTRL-C to exit.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>No rubbish.  Not working.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>>Drew
>>>>        
>>>>

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