[gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Nick Rout]

For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
that /home has become readonly overnight.

Basically I have to shut down X, manually kill all processes
accessing /home and then run

umount /home
mount /home

which fixes it until tomorrow morning.

I also tried mount /home -o remount,rw 

but was told that /dev/hdb1 was readonly - but it has the same
permissions as /dev/hda1.

Any clues as to where to from here? I cannot even seem to isolate what
time this is happening.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[John Jolet]

sounds like a cron job....
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 14:59, Nick Rout wrote:
> For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
> that /home has become readonly overnight.
>
> Basically I have to shut down X, manually kill all processes
> accessing /home and then run
>
> umount /home
> mount /home
>
> which fixes it until tomorrow morning.
>
> I also tried mount /home -o remount,rw
>
> but was told that /dev/hdb1 was readonly - but it has the same
> permissions as /dev/hda1.
>
> Any clues as to where to from here? I cannot even seem to isolate what
> time this is happening.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[cafairle]

Whats your line in fstab for /home?

It does sound cron-job like. Installed a cron daemon recently? Check
/etc/cron.daily or crontab -l

Does ownership change? Permissions? 

Cheers,
Chris

Quoting Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz>:

> For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
> that /home has become readonly overnight.
> 
> Basically I have to shut down X, manually kill all processes
> accessing /home and then run
> 
> umount /home
> mount /home
> 
> which fixes it until tomorrow morning.
> 
> I also tried mount /home -o remount,rw 
> 
> but was told that /dev/hdb1 was readonly - but it has the same
> permissions as /dev/hda1.
> 
> Any clues as to where to from here? I cannot even seem to isolate what
> time this is happening.
> -- 
> Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz>
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Matt Nordhoff]

On 08/24/05 15:59, Nick Rout wrote:
> For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
> that /home has become readonly overnight.
> 
> Basically I have to shut down X, manually kill all processes
> accessing /home and then run
> 
> umount /home
> mount /home
> 
> which fixes it until tomorrow morning.
> 
> I also tried mount /home -o remount,rw 
> 
> but was told that /dev/hdb1 was readonly - but it has the same
> permissions as /dev/hda1.
> 
> Any clues as to where to from here? I cannot even seem to isolate what
> time this is happening.

Filesystem errors, maybe? That's why I was always getting read-only 
partitions... Run fsck on it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:13:41 -0400
Matt Nordhoff wrote:

> On 08/24/05 15:59, Nick Rout wrote:
> > For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
> > that /home has become readonly overnight.
> > 
> > Basically I have to shut down X, manually kill all processes
> > accessing /home and then run
> > 
> > umount /home
> > mount /home
> > 
> > which fixes it until tomorrow morning.
> > 
> > I also tried mount /home -o remount,rw 
> > 
> > but was told that /dev/hdb1 was readonly - but it has the same
> > permissions as /dev/hda1.
> > 
> > Any clues as to where to from here? I cannot even seem to isolate what
> > time this is happening.
> 
> Filesystem errors, maybe? That's why I was always getting read-only 
> partitions... Run fsck on it.

>From a log investigation you might be right.

Bugger, it is a newish disk too.

Better dig out the receipt and get ready to ask for a replacement.

After backing up the 110G on the darned thing.

Time to dump some old files methinks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> From a log investigation you might be right.
>
> Bugger, it is a newish disk too.
>
> Better dig out the receipt and get ready to ask for a replacement.

I had a Maxtor drive die just after the one-year warranty expired. We had
one server with Maxtors that died twice in one year.

Because of this, we now have a "Seagate-only" policy for hard-drives -
they may cost a bit more but they're reliable and many come with a three
year warranty.


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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Thursday 25 August 2005 17:46, A. Khattri wrote:

> I had a Maxtor drive die just after the one-year warranty expired. We had
> one server with Maxtors that died twice in one year.
>
> Because of this, we now have a "Seagate-only" policy for hard-drives -
> they may cost a bit more but they're reliable and many come with a three
> year warranty.

well, my new seagate died in the first week.. .the second one run for years 
without problems...

Seagate = Sie geht oder sie geht nicht. (it works or  not).

But the best defective harddisk/all harddisks ratio has samsung.. one drive, 
no problems so far ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández]

On Thursday 25 August 2005 15:07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 17:46, A. Khattri wrote:
> > I had a Maxtor drive die just after the one-year warranty expired. We had
> > one server with Maxtors that died twice in one year.
> >
> > Because of this, we now have a "Seagate-only" policy for hard-drives -
> > they may cost a bit more but they're reliable and many come with a three
> > year warranty.
>
> well, my new seagate died in the first week.. .the second one run for years
> without problems...

I had very bad experience with bigfoots, about 50% (of 10 or more) died on the 
first 2.5 years.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández wrote:

> I had very bad experience with bigfoots, about 50% (of 10 or more) died on the
> first 2.5 years.

That's not too bad compared to Maxtors.

I have Seagate (SCSI) disks in servers that have been running for almost 5
years now...


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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:07:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> well, my new seagate died in the first week.. .the second one run for years 
> without problems...
> 
> Seagate = Sie geht oder sie geht nicht. (it works or  not).
> 

If it is DOA or dies very soon, you can always demand they replace it.
What I hate most is those Maxtor drives that dies just one month after
the warranty expired. 

Also, Seagate's website has some nice diagnostic tools. My ex-roommate
had this habit of slamming the doors. And The vibration sent through
the thin wood paneling jerked my desktop just enough to start
producing dead sectors. The Maxtor just started crapping out after the
first dead sector is found, and there's no getting it back to life.
The replacement Seagate suffered the same problem until I added some
precautions (dampening the contact of computer with desk and desk with
wall). But the diagnostic tool just swapped a few sectors from the
back-up sectors and I'm all fine. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:38, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:07:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > well, my new seagate died in the first week.. .the second one run for
> > years without problems...
> >
> > Seagate = Sie geht oder sie geht nicht. (it works or  not).
>
> If it is DOA or dies very soon, you can always demand they replace it.
> What I hate most is those Maxtor drives that dies just one month after
> the warranty expired.
>

well, I just brought it back ito the shop and got a new one, so no problem :)

I prefer the early death, because you had not enough time to copy everything 
onto it ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Alec Shaner]

A. Khattri wrote:
> I had a Maxtor drive die just after the one-year warranty expired. We had
> one server with Maxtors that died twice in one year.
> 
> Because of this, we now have a "Seagate-only" policy for hard-drives -
> they may cost a bit more but they're reliable and many come with a three
> year warranty.
> 

I also had a bad experience with Maxtor, though I admit I've only bought 
one in my life. But friends have also reported problems with Maxtore 
too. Ended up with the same read-only problem as the OP. It predictably 
occurred weekly after the emerge sync in cron.

I use Seagate for SCSI, and WD for IDE/SATA and have never had a problem 
with either.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Mike Williams]

On Thursday 25 August 2005 16:46, A. Khattri wrote:
> I had a Maxtor drive die just after the one-year warranty expired. We had
> one server with Maxtors that died twice in one year.
>
> Because of this, we now have a "Seagate-only" policy for hard-drives -
> they may cost a bit more but they're reliable and many come with a three
> year warranty.

Maxtors RMA process is exceptionally quick and simple though, as long as the 
drive is still detectable by the BIOS. Their warranty periods are 3 year and 
above now too.
All you pay is postage back to Maxtor (in Ireland for the UK).

I've sent 7-8 back, and had replacements about a week or so after returning 
them. 3 200's I sent back got replaced with 250's!

No, I don't work for Maxtor!
And yes, I avoid Maxtors now!

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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Mike Williams wrote:

> Maxtors RMA process is exceptionally quick and simple though, as long as the
> drive is still detectable by the BIOS.

Sure - we have a *lot* of experience with their RMA process!

> Their warranty periods are 3 year and
> above now too.
> All you pay is postage back to Maxtor (in Ireland for the UK).

Those replacement Maxtor drives are usually "factory refurbished" (its a
great way to piss off your customers and make them use a competitor
instead!).


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Re: [gentoo-user] /home becoming readonly every night

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:13, Matt Nordhoff wrote:
> On 08/24/05 15:59, Nick Rout wrote:
> > For somewhere between 3 days and a week I have been rising to find
> > that /home has become readonly overnight.
>
> Filesystem errors, maybe? That's why I was always getting read-only
> partitions... Run fsck on it.

Also check dmesg. It should say exactly why the filesystem was made 
read-only.

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