From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05AB13838B for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85D92E095E; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 15:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pokoeln.de (ns1.pokoeln.de [80.239.207.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2376DE08DD for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 15:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pokoeln.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7958124F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 15:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pokoeln.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.pokoeln.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ShRjZOZvU3yH for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from openwork.localnet (x2f61a64.dyn.telefonica.de [2.246.26.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jens@reinemuth.info) by mail.pokoeln.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 261E7580118 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:45:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Reinemuth To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:44:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4308051.U11ChDOhNf@openwork> X-Face: .Uz^BZehU*BzA=BE(Z}$z^hB(Qg]{)25[3)>Q57YJf.0HLD6}Mw]DV.Y[ugt>#hG+r_h&& t][=-fioA9VS,%D1g5eR\.aFV4jg{2:'^BC&OKkJUN8ZKkG/r*xf*gE(b*3X|F:qdo5#C. #O{tfSX.*H3<+|&H?jkmVrsl(Uat1]_z5pMZ7#Qe#7.TGs@_eZ]Kac_[xjla4^:kZ&&]9+ XdnL=cX User-Agent: KMail/4.14.1 (Linux/3.16.0-pf1; KDE/4.14.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <543178F3.20505@googlemail.com> References: <54317162.50508@gmail.com> <543178F3.20505@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: dc0d246a-3cc4-41cb-9df4-426cc2f55ea8 X-Archives-Hash: 62e3273efac1e49ed50e2d3892a1d927 Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2014, 18:59:31 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > Am 05.10.2014 um 18:27 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > On 05/10/2014 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:ystem all that much. > > > > My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn > > thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I > > could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer > > managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I > > switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird. > > or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails. > But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and > all filters broke - several times. > I can't really count how many times i simply deleted all the .config/akonadi and .local/akonadi stuff - and let akonadi regenerate it, simply because i deeply believed in the whole crap getting better! It never got better... Currently i can live with all that stuff, simply by disabling all nepomuk- and akonadi-stuff and waiting for it to show all my mails again... Funny: My wife has a second account with exactly the same settings and is deeply annoyed by the permanent popups telling her that the balloo-indexer has closed... Indeed she has disabled it!!! So i have to kill that shit every time! Most annoying story in the last time: KdePIM 4.10 simply stopped working with my private Courier-IMAP-Server, telling everyone, that courier has a bug... Ok, maybe, but it worked since every Version and just stopped because one ore more developers simply decided to do things "right"!!! No Problem in Gentoo, simply mask and downgrade kdepim-meta... I had more problems at work with Kubuntu! With KDE4.10.1 everything works as expected... But this is just a gnome-like-behavior... The developers simply don't really care what the users want or need... i really never heard of anybody saying: Oh that search stuff is cool! I use it regularily! And to go deeper: Why don't they store documents in a database, that is better optimized for documents... MongoDB? CouchDB? Instead they use this shitty mixture of MySQL and Virtuoso!? WTF? -- jens reinemuth leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4 d-67483 edesheim mobil: +49.(0)176.63613420 mail: jens@reinemuth.info jabber: jens@jabber.reinemuth.info -- Stewie Griffin: So, what do you think of this "Music Television?"