[gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Abraham Marín Pérez]

Hi everyone:

    I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
got nothing.

    The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
I doing anything wrong?

Thanks,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Ralph Slooten]

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Hello Abraham,

I have been looking at LDAP myself for ages now, but understand almost
nothing of it ;-) Anyways, your (first) mail got me thinking to test it
myself again. I hit the same brick wall you did. It seems that the
current thunderbird does *not* support LDAP at all (although it does
present it as an option). I tried from an example on a website (to test
with their ldap), aswell as random "off-my-head" values but it does not
append it to the address book.

Maybe it's a thunderbird bug, I don't know (I haven't looked yet)?

All I'm doing here is confirming your problem, not solving it (although
I would be interested if there is a solution) ;-) Maybe it requires
openldap to be installed (I only installed it so far on my server, not
workstation)?

Greetings
Ralph

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
>    I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
> mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
> and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
> add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
> with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
> got nothing.
> 
>    The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
> server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
> what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
> I doing anything wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> Abraham
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Brett Schroeder]

The OpenLDAP client is *not* needed on the machine running T-bird - do 
something like the following to convince yourself that t-bird does *not* 
require the ldap client

grep -i ldap /var/db/pkg/mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2/{,R,P}DEPEND

All the work is in setting up the server. Thunderbird itself requires only a 
few simple pieces of info.

See this

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/ldap.html

and here's some more links (somewhat dated now but they get you thinking in 
the right direction)

http://collingrady.com/2004/07/02/moz-ldap/
http://www.topology.org/comms/ldap.html

The best way to get this working (as is the case for any client-server 
software) is to use ethereal/tcpdump to capture the network requests made by 
t-bird. Then you will see exactly what requests are being sent to & from the 
server. This requires that you understand the protocol and how your server has 
  implemented it

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2251.txt
http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/

LDAP schemas & servers are way too much fun ;-)

Brett

Ralph Slooten wrote:
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> Hello Abraham,
> 
> I have been looking at LDAP myself for ages now, but understand almost
> nothing of it ;-) Anyways, your (first) mail got me thinking to test it
> myself again. I hit the same brick wall you did. It seems that the
> current thunderbird does *not* support LDAP at all (although it does
> present it as an option). I tried from an example on a website (to test
> with their ldap), aswell as random "off-my-head" values but it does not
> append it to the address book.
> 
> Maybe it's a thunderbird bug, I don't know (I haven't looked yet)?
> 
> All I'm doing here is confirming your problem, not solving it (although
> I would be interested if there is a solution) ;-) Maybe it requires
> openldap to be installed (I only installed it so far on my server, not
> workstation)?
> 
> Greetings
> Ralph
> 
> Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
> 
>>Hi everyone:
>>
>>   I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
>>mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
>>and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
>>add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
>>with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
>>got nothing.
>>
>>   The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
>>server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
>>what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
>>I doing anything wrong?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Abraham
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Abraham Marín Pérez]

Well, after using Ethereal to see the parameters sent during the 
transaction, it does work, I can browse the LDAP database. The problem 
now is that LDAP access seems to be read only and I'd like to be able to 
add new contacts to the directory from Thunderbird, is this possible? 
and is this secure to be done through Internet?

Thanks,
Abraham

Brett Schroeder escribió:

> The OpenLDAP client is *not* needed on the machine running T-bird - do 
> something like the following to convince yourself that t-bird does 
> *not* require the ldap client
>
> grep -i ldap 
> /var/db/pkg/mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2/{,R,P}DEPEND
>
> All the work is in setting up the server. Thunderbird itself requires 
> only a few simple pieces of info.
>
> See this
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/ldap.html
>
> and here's some more links (somewhat dated now but they get you 
> thinking in the right direction)
>
> http://collingrady.com/2004/07/02/moz-ldap/
> http://www.topology.org/comms/ldap.html
>
> The best way to get this working (as is the case for any client-server 
> software) is to use ethereal/tcpdump to capture the network requests 
> made by t-bird. Then you will see exactly what requests are being sent 
> to & from the server. This requires that you understand the protocol 
> and how your server has  implemented it
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2251.txt
> http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/
>
> LDAP schemas & servers are way too much fun ;-)
>
> Brett
>
> Ralph Slooten wrote:
>
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>> Hello Abraham,
>>
>> I have been looking at LDAP myself for ages now, but understand almost
>> nothing of it ;-) Anyways, your (first) mail got me thinking to test it
>> myself again. I hit the same brick wall you did. It seems that the
>> current thunderbird does *not* support LDAP at all (although it does
>> present it as an option). I tried from an example on a website (to test
>> with their ldap), aswell as random "off-my-head" values but it does not
>> append it to the address book.
>>
>> Maybe it's a thunderbird bug, I don't know (I haven't looked yet)?
>>
>> All I'm doing here is confirming your problem, not solving it (although
>> I would be interested if there is a solution) ;-) Maybe it requires
>> openldap to be installed (I only installed it so far on my server, not
>> workstation)?
>>
>> Greetings
>> Ralph
>>
>> Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone:
>>>
>>>   I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
>>> mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged 
>>> OpenLDAP
>>> and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
>>> add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
>>> with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
>>> got nothing.
>>>
>>>   The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
>>> server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
>>> what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing 
>>> happened. Am
>>> I doing anything wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Abraham
>>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Peter van Eck]

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Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-(

Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases
from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server
and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything ..
In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet..

I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window
managers...all on gentoo..same result..

I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work ..

Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and
guess what .. IT WORKS !!!

I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think
that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo.
I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a
statement on that..

Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla...

rgds,

Peter

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
>    I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
> mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
> and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
> add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
> with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
> got nothing.
> 
>    The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
> server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
> what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
> I doing anything wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> Abraham
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Bryce Verdier]

 emerge -vp mozilla-thunderbird

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2  -debug +gnome 
+ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint 32,584 kB

You probably just needed to add the "+ldap" to your USE variable.

b.

Peter van Eck wrote:

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>Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-(
>
>Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases
>from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server
>and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything ..
>In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet..
>
>I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window
>managers...all on gentoo..same result..
>
>I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work ..
>
>Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and
>guess what .. IT WORKS !!!
>
>I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think
>that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo.
>I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a
>statement on that..
>
>Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla...
>
>rgds,
>
>Peter
>
>Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi everyone:
>>
>>   I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
>>mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
>>and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
>>add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
>>with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
>>got nothing.
>>
>>   The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
>>server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
>>what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
>>I doing anything wrong?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Abraham
>>
>>    
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Peter van Eck]

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Excellent.. Never thought of or even looked in use.desc for a +ldap USE
flag...

That's it !! case solved :-)

thanks,

Peter


Bryce Verdier wrote:
> 
> emerge -vp mozilla-thunderbird
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R   ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2  -debug +gnome
> +ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint 32,584 kB
> 
> You probably just needed to add the "+ldap" to your USE variable.
> 
> b.
> 
> Peter van Eck wrote:
> 
> Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-(
> 
> Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases
> from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server
> and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything ..
> In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet..
> 
> I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window
> managers...all on gentoo..same result..
> 
> I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work ..
> 
> Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and
> guess what .. IT WORKS !!!
> 
> I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think
> that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo.
> I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a
> statement on that..
> 
> Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla...
> 
> rgds,
> 
> Peter
> 
> Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
>  
> 
>>>> Hi everyone:
>>>>
>>>>   I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
>>>> mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP
>>>> and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
>>>> add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
>>>> with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
>>>> got nothing.
>>>>
>>>>   The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
>>>> server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
>>>> what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am
>>>> I doing anything wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Abraham
>>>>
>>>>   
> 

>>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

[Abraham Marín Pérez]

It must be a different problem since Thunderbird is indeed compiled with 
ldap support enabled, in fact, I also have Evolution (also compile with 
+ldap) and can't access my local ldap server either; I guess my problem 
is not related with Thunderbird but with the server itself. I'll try 
again following Brett's links, thank you all anyway.

Regards,
Abraham

Bryce Verdier escribió:

>
> emerge -vp mozilla-thunderbird
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R   ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2  -debug 
> +gnome +ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint 
> 32,584 kB
>
> You probably just needed to add the "+ldap" to your USE variable.
>
> b.
>
> Peter van Eck wrote:
>
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>>
>> Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-(
>>
>> Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases
>> from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server
>> and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything ..
>> In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet..
>>
>> I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window
>> managers...all on gentoo..same result..
>>
>> I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work ..
>>
>> Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and
>> guess what .. IT WORKS !!!
>>
>> I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think
>> that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo.
>> I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a
>> statement on that..
>>
>> Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla...
>>
>> rgds,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Hi everyone:
>>>
>>>   I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
>>> mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged 
>>> OpenLDAP
>>> and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
>>> add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
>>> with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
>>> got nothing.
>>>
>>>   The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
>>> server from the Address Book: FILE -> NEW -> LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
>>> what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing 
>>> happened. Am
>>> I doing anything wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Abraham
>>>
>>>   
>>
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