From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3KDE-00042f-Uo for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:03:41 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7BL1OI2019998; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:01:24 GMT Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7BKu3sM022591 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:56:03 GMT Received: from [192.168.2.4] (really [199.126.232.163]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050811205656.YYQD5980.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@[192.168.2.4]> for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:56:56 -0600 Message-ID: <42FB685B.5090907@yahoo.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:01:47 +0000 From: Ian K Organization: Linux. Pentium 3, 500Mhz, 256MB RAM / 1GB SWAP, 80.0GB HD, ATI RADEON Evil Wizard 64MB, Xfree, KDE 3.2.2, "PentaQuad" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050507) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola References: <42FAB7FB.2050309@erols.com> <42FB5BA6.9080906@planet.nl> <200508112219.47579.benno.schulenberg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200508112219.47579.benno.schulenberg@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000002010900020904020802" X-Archives-Salt: 36dd30f5-49ca-4fb8-83b4-2265df58c209 X-Archives-Hash: 17dd882e34e7354bad3d92cb7b37e355 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000002010900020904020802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Benno Schulenberg wrote: >Holly Bostick wrote: > > >>I have the "right" to observe, and I also have >>the "right" to record my observations, >> >> > >Yes, as an individual you have that right (unless you're observing >military installations :). But Google is a company, and companies >are bound to some rules: > >http://home.planet.nl/~privacy1/wbp_en_rev.htm > >Or in a more understandable form (but in Dutch): > >http://www.justitie.nl/themas/meer/hoofdlijnen_wbp.asp > >In short: "Organisations may only collect and use personal data for >a well-defined goal. This goal they must define up front, before >starting the collection of data. They may not collect more data >than strictly necessary for that goal." Etcetera, etcetera. > >Benno > > I personally think it is an uneeded FireFox bashing. I do agree that a software program should not be as dependant on a single website (Google) as FireFox is. I think that the instant "Im Feeling Lucky" feature needs some big changes. And for those of us who would rather not use Google, well, its a pain. I know that FireFox is trying to be helpful, and I understand that. I just dont want to see it on the road to Microsoft Word's 'helpfulness'. I DONT WANT TO TAB IT, $#@! IT!!! ..ahem.. Ive seen worse features in programs, but I think that FireFox should be less dependant on something like a website. That really should go for anything, if no program depended on anything else, it would make installs (Yes I know about emerge, :) ) much easier. I think that Mozilla's financial status is completely irrelevant to this story, and in no way affects their program. In fact, if they pull in money, they can use it to make their browser/emailClient much better. This article has some truths, but also some major faults. Im still happy to use Firefox. Ian --------------000002010900020904020802 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="omega_2_1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="omega_2_1.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:omega_2_1@yahoo.ca note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: "PentaQuad"=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000002010900020904020802-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list