[gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Jarry]

Hi,

I have a question concerning sendmail: my employer requires, that
all email-communication must be archived, both incomming and outgoing.
Personally, I don't like this at all, but he has right to do this
(at least according to our law)...

Now he wants me to set this up, but frankly, I do not know how
(I'm using sendmail as MTA). Could someone give me some hint?

Thanks,
Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Christopher Fisk]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Jarry wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a question concerning sendmail: my employer requires, that
> all email-communication must be archived, both incomming and outgoing.
> Personally, I don't like this at all, but he has right to do this
> (at least according to our law)...
>
> Now he wants me to set this up, but frankly, I do not know how
> (I'm using sendmail as MTA). Could someone give me some hint?

Use MailScanner ( http://www.mailscanner.info ).  It's a spam/virus filter 
in addition, but will also give you the functionality you are looking for.

During configuration you just set the deliver actions for the various 
detections to deliver *and* forward archive@yourcompany.com.  Plus you can 
implement spam filtering and virus filtering at the same time.


Christoher Fisk
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Jarry]

Christopher Fisk wrote:

> Use MailScanner ( http://www.mailscanner.info ).  It's a spam/virus 
> filter in addition, but will also give you the functionality you are 
> looking for.

Is it not problem, if I use spamassassin & clamav? Or do I have to
switch? I would not like to mess things and have no mail delivered
at all...

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Saturday 06 August 2005 01:05, Jarry wrote:
> Christopher Fisk wrote:
> > Use MailScanner ( http://www.mailscanner.info ).  It's a spam/virus
> > filter in addition, but will also give you the functionality you are
> > looking for.
>
> Is it not problem, if I use spamassassin & clamav? Or do I have to
> switch? I would not like to mess things and have no mail delivered
> at all...

Easy to do with procmail if that's already installed. You can just add a 
rule to both forward and continue delivery to /etc/procmailrc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Jarry]

Jason Stubbs wrote:

> Easy to do with procmail if that's already installed. You can just add a 
> rule to both forward and continue delivery to /etc/procmailrc.

I thought procmail takes care only for incomming mail. Am I wrong?
Because I need to archive both incomming and outgoing mails...

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Saturday 06 August 2005 01:31, Jarry wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > Easy to do with procmail if that's already installed. You can just add
> > a rule to both forward and continue delivery to /etc/procmailrc.
>
> I thought procmail takes care only for incomming mail. Am I wrong?
> Because I need to archive both incomming and outgoing mails...

No your not wrong. Ever played with sendmail rules? They're not fun. ;)
There's many other possibilities before you have to go down that road, 
though. Try googling for "archiving outgoing mail with sendmail".

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Christopher Fisk]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Jarry wrote:

> Christopher Fisk wrote:
>
>>  Use MailScanner ( http://www.mailscanner.info ).  It's a spam/virus filter
>>  in addition, but will also give you the functionality you are looking for.
>
> Is it not problem, if I use spamassassin & clamav? Or do I have to
> switch? I would not like to mess things and have no mail delivered
> at all...

MailScanner actually will call clamav and spamassassin.  So it'll be a 
configuration migration =)

Probably worth looking at at least, and I know it'll do the archival.


Christopher Fisk
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Christopher Fisk]

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Jason Stubbs wrote:

> No your not wrong. Ever played with sendmail rules? They're not fun. ;)
> There's many other possibilities before you have to go down that road,
> though. Try googling for "archiving outgoing mail with sendmail".

Heh, good luck with that, I was lucky in that I was using MailScanner for 
spam/virus filtering before I was asked to implement this, so the 
implementation was easy.

MailScanner has the added advantage that you can tell it only to archive 
messages not marked as spam, so you don't have to weed through that junk 
as well if you don't need to.


It's a good solution for this problem.  Try it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to archive all mail?

[Raymond Lillard]

Jarry wrote:
> I have a question concerning sendmail: my employer requires, that
> all email-communication must be archived, both incomming and outgoing.
> Personally, I don't like this at all, but he has right to do this
> (at least according to our law)...
> 
> Now he wants me to set this up, but frankly, I do not know how
> (I'm using sendmail as MTA). Could someone give me some hint?

I manage a mail server with Sendmail/Dovecot/Procmail on OpenBSD.
The business owner asked for the same thing.  My solution was to
add the "synonym" milter to sendmail.  It has worked flawlessly
for over a year.  I use rsync each night to copy the archived files
off to a file server for tape backup.

http://www.modulo.ro/synonym/

I just checked and synonym does not appear to be in Portage, but
adding it to sendmail isn't difficult.  Mail me if you need help.

Regards,
Ray


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