From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0nmw-0003Iy-O4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:02:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j74LxOtu019196; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:59:24 GMT Received: from redweb.harvee.org (dsl093-191-107.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.191.107]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j74LseoO008351 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 21:54:41 GMT Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by redweb.harvee.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E900876D44 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harvee.org (harvee.org [192.168.0.1]) by redweb.harvee.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062A476D44 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.28] ([192.168.0.28]) by harvee.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j74Lt8CB028952 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:55:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42F28E9C.1060008@harvee.org> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:54:36 -0400 From: "Eric S. Johansson" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: bad howto warning: Re: [gentoo-user] updating mostly identical systems References: <42F0D771.2060606@harvee.org> <20050803155432.56ad50e5@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <558b73fb05080308349b07070@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <558b73fb05080308349b07070@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Camram: capability; stamp X-Archives-Salt: 375c05cf-f4e5-4467-99fd-fee1a0a329d8 X-Archives-Hash: 30a336a81cab9b6b3016ffd828346237 Michael Crute wrote: > Have you seen the build host tutorial on the wiki? > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host to put it politely, this how-to is misleading. It should be removed. problem 1: assumes automounter works. I was not able to get automounter to function and had to resort to normal NFS mounts. I verified with a few people outside of the Linux community that automounter is problematic no matter who's you use. problem 2: does not tell you which directories to create. I've had to determine that experimentally as I've gone along. I'll probably document on the second machine install. Problem 3: inadequate chroot environment set up. As a result, Shell scripts that should run chrooted don't. In fact, they just don't run. that is as far as I've gotten. Until I solved the chroot problem, I'm pretty well stopped. I think this how-to is a good example of a really bad how to. Yes it is perfectly acceptable to say "go look here" when dealing with something essential to the how-to that was previously documented. But you must put the reference to other documentation in context including context specific debugging sequences. That would have saved me hours with the automounter because I would have known to to quit far earlier and gone to a more reliable system (assuming NFS is reliable). as I solve problems, I will probably post the documentation here. ---eric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list