[gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[Fabrizio Prosperi]

Hi all, I am experiencing this strange problem.
Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
(mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 

Just doing cat /var/log/portage/<that-log>.log
is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.

I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
And why konsole is not affected by it?

Any help appreciated.
Fabrizio


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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[Fabrizio Prosperi]

Me again, of course it wasnt't emerge --pretend, it was emerge --update
world :)
Fabrizio

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:52:06AM +0200, Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
> Hi all, I am experiencing this strange problem.
> Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
> an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
> (mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
> 
> Just doing cat /var/log/portage/<that-log>.log
> is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
> 
> I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
> And why konsole is not affected by it?
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> Fabrizio
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[Hans-Werner Hilse]

Hi,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
Fabrizio Prosperi <fprosper@interfree.it> wrote:

> Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
> an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
> (mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
> 
> Just doing cat /var/log/portage/<that-log>.log
> is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
> 
> I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 

Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
aterm and only affect aterm.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[Richard Fish]

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

>Hi,
>
>On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
>Fabrizio Prosperi <fprosper@interfree.it> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
>>an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
>>(mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
>>
>>Just doing cat /var/log/portage/<that-log>.log
>>is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
>>
>>I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
>>    
>>
>
>Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
>sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
>swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
>matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
>management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
>unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
>aterm and only affect aterm.
>
>-hwh
>  
>

This may be a shot in the dark, since I don't use aterm, but can you 
check /var/log/messages and see if maybe the kernel is killing aterm due 
to excessive memory usage?  The search string is "oom" for "out-of-memory".

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

[Fabrizio Prosperi]

Thank you guys for the replies, I don't have access to the machine right
now but I'll check /var/log/messages for oom messages and get back to
you ASAP.

Fabrizio

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 12:24:19PM +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
> Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
> >Fabrizio Prosperi <fprosper@interfree.it> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
> >>an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
> >>(mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
> >>
> >>Just doing cat /var/log/portage/<that-log>.log
> >>is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
> >>
> >>I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
> >sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
> >swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
> >matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
> >management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
> >unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
> >aterm and only affect aterm.
> >
> >-hwh
> > 
> >
> 
> This may be a shot in the dark, since I don't use aterm, but can you 
> check /var/log/messages and see if maybe the kernel is killing aterm due 
> to excessive memory usage?  The search string is "oom" for "out-of-memory".
> 
> -Richard
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