Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

[Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org>]

Patrick Börjesson wrote:

>>Oh, and despite what Patrick said, I think you were right to post here
>>first-- no need to clog up b.g.o with what might be a configuration
>>problem and waste developer's time closing an invalid bug.
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>I really don't see how this could be a configuration problem, since it
>would have complained about an erroneous compilation flag if it was the
>k8 thing that was at fault... And missing files (which the compilation
>error points at) sounds pretty much like a valid bug to me...
>
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Errors building packages are *frequently* configuration problems.  
Anybody who has followed this list for at least a month knows that.

Thus, this is a perfectly valid forum to get feedback on an issue before 
filing a new bug report on b.g.o.  Bug reports that are not really bugs 
just waste valuable developer time.

That said, I do agree that this looks like an AMD64 specific bug.


>>I think it's always wise to try to make sure that it really is a bug
>>before posting it.
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>Of course, but looking at the ordinary response from developers to these
>kind of emails, I'd guess that b.g.o is where they want the report, not
>here...
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"Here" being gentoo-user, there are not a lot of developer responses 
here.  On gentoo-dev, you are correct, the standard response is "file on 
b.g.o."  But I still maintain that it is better to ask here (or on the 
forums, or on #gentoo) first.

>>And it seems to me that if there is a bug, it might be a *documentation*
>>bug (because the other person who mentioned using march=k8 said that
>>that was the recommendation of the docs, but that seems to no longer be
>>the case, if people using this flag are regularly receiving compilation
>>errors).
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>Documentation bug? Not recommended by the docs any more? 
>You might want to actually try to find information about the subjects
>you respond to. 
>
>Straight out of the AMD64 Gentoo Handbook:
>"AMD64 users who want to use a native 64 bit system should use
>-march=k8"
>Combining that cite with the information from the gcc info page, I'm
>pretty sure it's not a "documentation bug". 
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Hold on...the -march thing would be an easy mistake to make for those of 
us who don't run AMD processors, and are just trying to help.  Afterall, 
the platform keyword  is "amd64".  And gcc info says that k8, opteron, 
athlon64, and athlon-fx are all equivalent, although I would suggest 
that the non-k8 options are more descriptive.

-Richard

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