[gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[simply change]

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hi!

dear friends,

i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I HAVE A 
ADSL LINE) + floppy driver. now i need to install gentoo to my lap. so can 
any body to help me to do this? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Dienstag, 19. Juli 2005 09:47 schrieb ext simply change:

> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I HAVE
> A ADSL LINE) + floppy driver. now i need to install gentoo to my lap. so
> can any body to help me to do this?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml should help you out.

Bye...

	Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 13:47 +0600, simply change wrote:
> hi!
> 
> dear friends,
> 
> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I
> HAVE A ADSL LINE) + floppy driver.  now i need to install gentoo to my
> lap. so can any body to help me to do this? 


There is a howto on  the gentoo documentation, and perhaps in the wiki
too, - search for "alternative install"

basically you need a floppy that will allow you to:

1. boot with networking going
2. create and mount your filesystems
3. download a stage file
4. unzip it (specifically bzip2, although if the floppy only has gzip ot
zip you an repack your stage file)
5. chroot into the new file system.

tomsrtbt seems to fall down on the chrooting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:47:03 +0600, simply change wrote:

> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I
> HAVE A ADSL LINE) + floppy driver. now i need to install gentoo to my
> lap. so can any body to help me to do this? 

Considering how long compilation would take on this, the best approach
may be to install in a chroot on a more capable machine, then simply set
up the partitions and copy everything over once it is all compiled and
set up. Make sure you set your CFLAGS and CHOST to match the laptop. then
you only need to run grub to set up the bootloader and you're away.

Another advantage of this approach is that you can emerge updates in the
chroot with --buildpkg and NFS mount the PKG DIR on your laptop, so it
can install from binaries.


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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[John Blinka]

Nick Rout wrote:

>basically you need a floppy that will allow you to:
>
>1. boot with networking going
>2. create and mount your filesystems
>3. download a stage file
>4. unzip it (specifically bzip2, although if the floppy only has gzip ot
>zip you an repack your stage file)
>5. chroot into the new file system.
>
>tomsrtbt seems to fall down on the chrooting
>  
>
My experience with tomsrtbt is fairly good.  I, too, have an old laptop
(Dell XPi 150 CD) with no bootable cdrom.  The tomsrtbt floppy allowed
me to boot it, partition the disk, and to connect to the internet via a
Xircom pcmcia card.  It also allowed me to chroot to /mnt/gentoo.
For some reason which I can't explain, though, the ethernet connection
fails after the chroot.  This prevented downloading of required packages.
To solve this problem, I downloaded all the necessary packages on
another machine, exited the chrooted environment on the Dell XPi 150 CD,
brought all the packages over from the "other" machine to
/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles via nc, then re-chrooted and continued
emergeing.

I've almost got this laptop functioning under gentoo, but the compile
times are horrendously long.  Hence this question:  Can I use distcc
to speed it up?  I have 3 other machines already using distcc, but they
are more modern; their /etc/make.conf contains:

CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

whereas the Dell XPi 150 CD contains:

CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"

Do these differences prevent the Dell XPi 150 CD from being able
to use the distcc results from the other machines?

John
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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc (was: howto install gentoo without a cd-rom)

[Christoph Gysin]

John Blinka wrote:
> I've almost got this laptop functioning under gentoo, but the compile
> times are horrendously long.  Hence this question:  Can I use distcc
> to speed it up?  I have 3 other machines already using distcc, but they
> are more modern; their /etc/make.conf contains:
> 
> CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> 
> whereas the Dell XPi 150 CD contains:
> 
> CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer"
> CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
> 
> Do these differences prevent the Dell XPi 150 CD from being able
> to use the distcc results from the other machines?

No, that's not a problem. gcc won't use your settings from make.conf if
invoked by distcc.

But make sure you use the same gcc-versions on all boxes. It could work
with some combinations, but don't report bugs if it doesn't.

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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Petr Kocmid]

On Tuesday 19 of July 2005 09:47, simply change wrote:
> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I HAVE A
> ADSL LINE) + floppy driver. now i need to install gentoo to my lap. so can
> any body to help me to do this?

Last week I did it on ancient p/mmx omnibook 800 which has no CD nor floppy 
nor USB. 

1. Put the hard disk on another computer, unpack the base installation 
(stage3, portage snapshot, copy distfiles from CD). You may need a 2.5 to 3.5 
ide adapter cable to do it, or another laptop *with* CD drive.
2. remount /proc down to it, chroot to it, set the root password 
3. build some adequate kernel with genkernel
4. emerge and install grub, not lilo (lilo usually can't cope with different 
bios setting when you move drive back)
5. put the drive back on the laptop, reboot with manually entered grub 
parameters

Once booted, you can configure network and emerge/rebuild rest of what you 
want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Patrick Rutkowski]

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 03:47, simply change wrote:
> hi!
>
> dear friends,
>
> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I HAVE A
> ADSL LINE) + floppy driver. now i need to install gentoo to my lap. so can
> any body to help me to do this?

You could always try booting the slackware installer off of floppy disks. If 
you download their "network.dsk" floppy image then you can have internet 
access during the install; skip the slackinstall, duck out into a terminal, 
and install gentoo.
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