[gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Alexander Kirillov]

Hi all,
Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
When kde session locks on timeout
and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
to get things back to normal.
This only happens when unlocking a session
and works well inside kde.
Any ideas?
TIA,
Sasha

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Zac Medico]

Alexander Kirillov wrote:
> Hi all,
> Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
> doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
> When kde session locks on timeout
> and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
> I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
> to get things back to normal.
> This only happens when unlocking a session
> and works well inside kde.
> Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Sasha
> 

Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Alexander Kirillov]

>> Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
>> doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
>> When kde session locks on timeout
>> and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
>> I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
>> to get things back to normal.
>> This only happens when unlocking a session
>> and works well inside kde.
>> Any ideas?
> 
> Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen
> shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the
> password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.

Hi Zac,
That doesn't sound optimistic. Does it?
The problem is it used to be working.
And the widget to switch kb layouts is still there.
But it doesn't work as expected.
And yep. The damn password is all ascii. Too bad.
I've just found this is not the only problem I'm having
with i18n in kde. For some reason I can't switch encodings in
kde editors either.
I should mention this happened after massive system cleanup.
Removed gnome and a bunch of multimedia soft I didn't need any more.
Followed by usual depcleans and revdep-rebuilds.
Didn't find any inconsistences in installed ebuilds though.
So the challenge still stands and all suggestions welcome.
Sasha

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Zac Medico]

Alexander Kirillov wrote:
>>>Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
>>>doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
>>>When kde session locks on timeout
>>>and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
>>>I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
>>>to get things back to normal.
>>>This only happens when unlocking a session
>>>and works well inside kde.
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen
>>shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the
>>password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.
> 
> 
> Hi Zac,
> That doesn't sound optimistic. Does it?
> The problem is it used to be working.
> And the widget to switch kb layouts is still there.
> But it doesn't work as expected.
> And yep. The damn password is all ascii. Too bad.
> I've just found this is not the only problem I'm having
> with i18n in kde. For some reason I can't switch encodings in
> kde editors either.
> I should mention this happened after massive system cleanup.
> Removed gnome and a bunch of multimedia soft I didn't need any more.
> Followed by usual depcleans and revdep-rebuilds.
> Didn't find any inconsistences in installed ebuilds though.
> So the challenge still stands and all suggestions welcome.
> Sasha
> 

I wasn't aware that such a widget existed.  If I knew how to make the widget appear and switch keyboard layouts then I would gladly test it for you on my end.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Alexander Kirillov]

>>>> Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
>>>> doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
>>>> When kde session locks on timeout
>>>> and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
>>>> I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
>>>> to get things back to normal.
>>>> This only happens when unlocking a session
>>>> and works well inside kde.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen
>>> shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the
>>> password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.
>>
>> That doesn't sound optimistic. Does it?
>> The problem is it used to be working.
>> And the widget to switch kb layouts is still there.
>> But it doesn't work as expected.
>> And yep. The damn password is all ascii. Too bad.
>> I've just found this is not the only problem I'm having
>> with i18n in kde. For some reason I can't switch encodings in
>> kde editors either.
>> I should mention this happened after massive system cleanup.
>> Removed gnome and a bunch of multimedia soft I didn't need any more.
>> Followed by usual depcleans and revdep-rebuilds.
>> Didn't find any inconsistences in installed ebuilds though.
>> So the challenge still stands and all suggestions welcome.
> 
> I wasn't aware that such a widget existed.  If I knew how to make the
> widget appear and switch keyboard layouts then I would gladly test it
> for you on my end.

Thanks. Would be good if you have time for this.
I think you have to add an extra kb layout for the widget to show up
in session unlock screen. I'm using en_US and ru.
BTW what I said above of not being able to switch encodings in kde
editors isn't true. Early birds have big eyes they say:)
I probably didn't select proper encoding when saving non-en document.
So it's all question marks (3f hex). No wonder I couldn't get the
encoding right.
Thanks for your help,
Sasha

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Zac Medico]

Alexander Kirillov wrote:
>>>>>Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
>>>>>doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
>>>>>When kde session locks on timeout
>>>>>and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
>>>>>I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
>>>>>to get things back to normal.
>>>>>This only happens when unlocking a session
>>>>>and works well inside kde.
>>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen
>>>>shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the
>>>>password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.
>>>
>>>That doesn't sound optimistic. Does it?
>>>The problem is it used to be working.
>>>And the widget to switch kb layouts is still there.
>>>But it doesn't work as expected.
>>>And yep. The damn password is all ascii. Too bad.
>>>I've just found this is not the only problem I'm having
>>>with i18n in kde. For some reason I can't switch encodings in
>>>kde editors either.
>>>I should mention this happened after massive system cleanup.
>>>Removed gnome and a bunch of multimedia soft I didn't need any more.
>>>Followed by usual depcleans and revdep-rebuilds.
>>>Didn't find any inconsistences in installed ebuilds though.
>>>So the challenge still stands and all suggestions welcome.
>>
>>I wasn't aware that such a widget existed.  If I knew how to make the
>>widget appear and switch keyboard layouts then I would gladly test it
>>for you on my end.
> 
> 
> Thanks. Would be good if you have time for this.
> I think you have to add an extra kb layout for the widget to show up
> in session unlock screen. I'm using en_US and ru.
> BTW what I said above of not being able to switch encodings in kde
> editors isn't true. Early birds have big eyes they say:)
> I probably didn't select proper encoding when saving non-en document.
> So it's all question marks (3f hex). No wonder I couldn't get the
> encoding right.
> Thanks for your help,
> Sasha
> 

I think I can reproduce your problem.  I used kcontrol to add another keyboard layout under "Regional & Accesibility" and the keyboard layout widget now appears when the the screen is locked.  When I click the widget it's text changes to "err".  It seems to be a bug in kde-base/kscreensaver-3.4.1 because the system tray widget works fine.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't unlock session in KDE 3.4

[Alexander Kirillov]

>>>>>> Kb layout switch in session unlock screen
>>>>>> doesn't work for me after upgrade to kde 3.4
>>>>>> When kde session locks on timeout
>>>>>> and the keyboard happens to be left in non-english layout
>>>>>> I can't switch it back to en and have to kill X
>>>>>> to get things back to normal.
>>>>>> This only happens when unlocking a session
>>>>>> and works well inside kde.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like it could be a security constraint.  A locked screen
>>>>> shouldn't allow much more than password input.  You can't input the
>>>>> password with the non-en layout? Too bad :-(.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't sound optimistic. Does it?
>>>> The problem is it used to be working.
>>>> And the widget to switch kb layouts is still there.
>>>> But it doesn't work as expected.
>>>> And yep. The damn password is all ascii. Too bad.
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware that such a widget existed.  If I knew how to make the
>>> widget appear and switch keyboard layouts then I would gladly test it
>>> for you on my end.
>>
>> Thanks. Would be good if you have time for this.
>> I think you have to add an extra kb layout for the widget to show up
>> in session unlock screen. I'm using en_US and ru.
> 
> I think I can reproduce your problem.  I used kcontrol to add another
> keyboard layout under "Regional & Accesibility" and the keyboard layout
> widget now appears when the the screen is locked.  When I click the
> widget it's text changes to "err".  It seems to be a bug in
> kde-base/kscreensaver-3.4.1 because the system tray widget works fine.

Thanks a lot Zac,
I'm not using split ebuilds so this seems to be a kde bug indeed.
I've filed a bug report to kde.org. Bug ID #109234.
It's real annoying and hopefully will be fixed soon enough.
Sasha

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