[gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Allan Gottlieb]

I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.

It keeps complaining that

   The panel encountered a problem while loading
   "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".

I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
tell me where it is?

Thanks,
allan
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[gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Allan Gottlieb]

I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.

It keeps complaining that

   The panel encountered a problem while loading
   "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".

I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
tell me where it is?

Thanks,
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Mark Knecht]

Allan,
   Hi. I had this problem some time ago. I believe I deleted the
volume control on the panel and then added new one to fix it. I might
have actually deleted the whole panel. Not totally sure. Anyway,
building it up by hand seemed to address the issue for me.

Hope this helps,
Mark

On 7/10/05, Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu> wrote:
> I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
> 
> It keeps complaining that
> 
>    The panel encountered a problem while loading
>    "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
> 
> I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
> gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
> tell me where it is?
> 
> Thanks,
> allan
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> 
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Edward Catmur]

On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:51 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
> 
> It keeps complaining that
> 
>    The panel encountered a problem while loading
>    "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
> 
> I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
> gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
> tell me where it is?

GNOME_MixerApplet belongs to gnome-applets, actually.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Sun, 10 Jul 2005 20:35:10 +0100 Edward Catmur <ed@catmur.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:51 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
>> 
>> It keeps complaining that
>> 
>>    The panel encountered a problem while loading
>>    "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
>> 
>> I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
>> gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
>> tell me where it is?
>
> GNOME_MixerApplet belongs to gnome-applets, actually.

Thanks for the confirmation, but it isn't there as far as I can tell.
In my old gnome-2.8

    bash-2.05b# ls /usr/libexec/mi*
    /usr/libexec/mini_commander_applet  /usr/libexec/mixer_applet2
    bash-2.05b#

But in my new gnome-2.10

    bash-2.05b# ls /mnt/gentoo-new/usr/libexec/mi*
    /mnt/gentoo-new/usr/libexec/mini_commander_applet
    bash-2.05b#

Mark Knecht suggests just telling gnome to delete the mixer from my
panel config and install in manually, which I may well do (thanks
mark).  I am sure I can find some mixer somewhere, but would prefer to
actually find this one.

This seems to be a bug.  Should I file it with gentoo (perhaps bad
packaging) or with gnome?

Thanks again to both of you.
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Holly Bostick]

Allan Gottlieb schreef:
> Mark Knecht suggests just telling gnome to delete the mixer from my
> panel config and install in manually, which I may well do (thanks
> mark).  

I think that's how I fixed it too-- although the gnome mixer isn't all
that useful as a mixer (compared to alsamixer, or gamixer), it is useful
to be sure that *GNOME* is correctly set up for sound (the mixer acts
like the canary in the mines; if it won't load, or errors with the  'no
device found' business, you can be sure that no GNOME/GTK applications
which normally produce sound, will).

> I am sure I can find some mixer somewhere, but would prefer to
> actually find this one.

Right click on the panel; Add to Panel=>Mixer should be somewhere in the
list; if not, then check in the 'Pre-existing Gnome Packages' section
(but I think it's in the first list).

In any case, very few, if any, of the former gnome-applets seem to be
runnable as commands any more. And the most recent gnome-panel (2.10.2)
is so buggy-- even for GNOME-- that I've had to go back to fbpanel,
which at least doesn't crash all the time due to some problem with the
system notification area... instead of getting better (it used to be
that the panel would crash in the mixer applet all the time, until you
got the GNOME backend straightened out, but after that it was pretty
stable-- no more, it seems). So this problem really could be anything,
but I will say that the mixer applet worked fine once I (working from
memory):

1) went to the GNOME control panel and made sure esd was set to start at
GNOME login, which I believe also needed

2) the esound daemon running in the default runlevel

and then

3) deleted and re-added the mixer applet.

Problem was I didn't really want to be running the Enlightened Sound
Daemon, so I somehow or other reconfigured everything to be ALSA instead
(took esound out of the default runlevel, and *thought* I told GNOME not
to start esd at startup, but it persists in doing so, went to the GNOME
Control Panel=>Multimedia and Sound, and mucked about with the sources
and sinks until I could at least get test sounds), and the mixer applet
continued to work (although the panel itself was notoriously unstable).
If you can follow all that <sigh>... it was a bit of a trial. Hope it's
helpful.

> 
> This seems to be a bug.  Should I file it with gentoo (perhaps bad
> packaging) or with gnome?

This mixer applet issue has been going on a long time... I'd check
Bugzilla first, and see if it has been filed (probably) and what's the
current status (for all I know, Gentoo could be waiting for an upstream
patch, which they usually note in b.g.o. Afaik, the procedure is to file
it with Gentoo, always, and if it's an upstream problem, the gnome
maintainers will pass it forward.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[LostSon]

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 I had this problem as well and i re-emerged gnome-panel and it went
away.


On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:16 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
> 
> It keeps complaining that
> 
>    The panel encountered a problem while loading
>    "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
> 
> I have emerged gnome-light, gnome-audio, gnome-alsamixer, and
> gnome-applets, but cannot find the gnome mixer applet.  Can anyone
> tell me where it is?
> 
> Thanks,
> allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:52:36 +0200 Holly Bostick <motub@planet.nl> wrote:

> Allan Gottlieb schreef:
>> Mark Knecht suggests just telling gnome to delete the mixer from my
>> panel config and install in manually, which I may well do (thanks
>> mark).  
>
> I think that's how I fixed it too-- although the gnome mixer isn't all
> that useful as a mixer (compared to alsamixer, or gamixer), it is useful
> to be sure that *GNOME* is correctly set up for sound (the mixer acts
> like the canary in the mines; if it won't load, or errors with the  'no
> device found' business, you can be sure that no GNOME/GTK applications
> which normally produce sound, will).

Good point

>> I am sure I can find some mixer somewhere, but would prefer to
>> actually find this one.
>
> Right click on the panel; Add to Panel=>Mixer should be somewhere in the
> list; if not, then check in the 'Pre-existing Gnome Packages' section
> (but I think it's in the first list).

No.  It really wasn't there, i.e. the binary wasn't present.  I
followed your advice and went to bugzilla.  This sent me to the forums
and the hint that the gstreamer USE is important.  I set this and did
the requisite emerges.  Now sounds do come up but I get the "no device
found" you mentioned above.  I shall pursue this.

The mixer still does not appear when I do "add to panel".  I don't see
"pre-existing gnome packages".  What (and where) is it?

> In any case, very few, if any, of the former gnome-applets seem to be
> runnable as commands any more. And the most recent gnome-panel (2.10.2)
> is so buggy-- even for GNOME-- that I've had to go back to fbpanel,
> which at least doesn't crash all the time due to some problem with the
> system notification area... instead of getting better (it used to be
> that the panel would crash in the mixer applet all the time, until you
> got the GNOME backend straightened out, but after that it was pretty
> stable-- no more, it seems). So this problem really could be anything,
> but I will say that the mixer applet worked fine once I (working from
> memory):
>
> 1) went to the GNOME control panel and made sure esd was set to start at
> GNOME login, which I believe also needed
>
> 2) the esound daemon running in the default runlevel
>
> and then
>
> 3) deleted and re-added the mixer applet.
>
> Problem was I didn't really want to be running the Enlightened Sound
> Daemon, so I somehow or other reconfigured everything to be ALSA instead
> (took esound out of the default runlevel, and *thought* I told GNOME not
> to start esd at startup, but it persists in doing so, went to the GNOME
> Control Panel=>Multimedia and Sound, and mucked about with the sources
> and sinks until I could at least get test sounds), and the mixer applet
> continued to work (although the panel itself was notoriously unstable).
> If you can follow all that <sigh>... it was a bit of a trial. Hope it's
> helpful.

Helpful, as always ... and as always, thanks.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Allan Gottlieb]

The key seems to be having gstreamer in the USE variable.

At Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0500 LostSon <lostson@lostsonsvault.org> wrote:

>  I had this problem as well and i re-emerged gnome-panel and it went
> away.
>
>
> On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:16 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
>> 
>> It keeps complaining that
>> 
>>    The panel encountered a problem while loading
>>    "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet

[Holly Bostick]

Allan Gottlieb schreef:
> The key seems to be having gstreamer in the USE variable.
> 
> At Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0500 LostSon <lostson@lostsonsvault.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I had this problem as well and i re-emerged gnome-panel and it went
>>away.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:16 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>>
>>>I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
>>>
>>>It keeps complaining that
>>>
>>>   The panel encountered a problem while loading
>>>   "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".

In that case, make sure to run

gstreamer-properties

to make sure the gstreamer backend is properly configured. I did try to
work with gstreamer, but the only thing that uses it --Totem-- really
worked much better with the xine backend, so I switched Totem to that
(recompile; if you compile it -xine it uses gstreamer; if +xine it uses
xine) and didn't think about gstreamer much more after that, so I can't
say more about its inner workings.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is GNOME_MixerAapplet (SOLVED)

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:21:24 +0200 Holly Bostick <motub@planet.nl> wrote:

> Allan Gottlieb schreef:
>> The key seems to be having gstreamer in the USE variable.
>> 
>>> I had this problem as well and i re-emerged gnome-panel and it went
>>>away.
>>>
>>>On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 14:16 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just installed a new stage1 gentoo with gnome-2.10.
>>>>
>>>>It keeps complaining that
>>>>
>>>>   The panel encountered a problem while loading
>>>>   "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet".
>
> In that case, make sure to run
>
> gstreamer-properties
>
> to make sure the gstreamer backend is properly configured.

That actually was set correctly.  Once I installed gstreamer and
joined the audio group, all was well.  The only somewhat non obvious
part was that you need the gstreamer USE variable.

Thanks for your help.
allan
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