[gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Grant]

Hello!  My Dell Inspiron 1000 laptop is reported to have a working
winmodem with Slackware here:

http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html ->
http://www.angelfire.com/linux/t_johnson/

According to the article, the modem's driver can be built into the kernel via:

Sound ->
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ->
PCI Devices ->
Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD MC97 Modem (EXPERIMENTAL)

I have ppp_generic and ppp_async built as modules and autoloaded.  I
have slmodem emerged, but is that necessary with the kernel driver?  I
have net-dialup/ppp-2.4.2-r10 emerged like this:

-activefilter
-atm
-dhcp
-ipv6
-mppe-mppc
+pam

When I try to '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start' I get:

* Bringing ppp0 up ...
SIOCDELRT: No such process [ ok ]

but I don't hear any dialing and subsequent ping attempts just say
"unknown host".  Also, a subsequent '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 stop' says:

* Bringing ppp0 down ...
* Interface seems to be down already [ ok ]

I can get rid of the 'SIOCDELRT: No such process' error if I change to:

DEFROUTE="no"

in '/etc/conf.d/net.ppp0'.  That option is defined as "Must pppd set
the default route?".

Lastly, I need to use a special script that my ISP (GlobalDialUp.com)
provides.  How can I incorporate that?

If I can get this working my troubles will be over!

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Daniel da Veiga]

I'm not sure here (but someone will point if I'm mistaken), but ppp
init script is intend to bring up adsl based connections, while you
need a dialler to connect dial-up, back in the days I had dial-up I
used minicom, and later kppp to handle this... In fact, you need to
set your device (usually /dev/modem) and use a program to dial using
that modem, this will create the ppp0 interface for you, and also
(most of them) will set is as the default route. Any server with
dial-up has configurations, and that's what your ISP have in their
script, you just find them out and put the same config at your dialer.

Good luck.

On 7/6/05, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello!  My Dell Inspiron 1000 laptop is reported to have a working
> winmodem with Slackware here:
> 
> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html ->
> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/t_johnson/
> 
> According to the article, the modem's driver can be built into the kernel via:
> 
> Sound ->
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ->
> PCI Devices ->
> Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD MC97 Modem (EXPERIMENTAL)
> 
> I have ppp_generic and ppp_async built as modules and autoloaded.  I
> have slmodem emerged, but is that necessary with the kernel driver?  I
> have net-dialup/ppp-2.4.2-r10 emerged like this:
> 
> -activefilter
> -atm
> -dhcp
> -ipv6
> -mppe-mppc
> +pam
> 
> When I try to '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start' I get:
> 
> * Bringing ppp0 up ...
> SIOCDELRT: No such process [ ok ]
> 
> but I don't hear any dialing and subsequent ping attempts just say
> "unknown host".  Also, a subsequent '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 stop' says:
> 
> * Bringing ppp0 down ...
> * Interface seems to be down already [ ok ]
> 
> I can get rid of the 'SIOCDELRT: No such process' error if I change to:
> 
> DEFROUTE="no"
> 
> in '/etc/conf.d/net.ppp0'.  That option is defined as "Must pppd set
> the default route?".
> 
> Lastly, I need to use a special script that my ISP (GlobalDialUp.com)
> provides.  How can I incorporate that?
> 
> If I can get this working my troubles will be over!
> 
> - Grant
> 
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> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Grant]

> I'm not sure here (but someone will point if I'm mistaken), but ppp
> init script is intend to bring up adsl based connections, while you
> need a dialler to connect dial-up, back in the days I had dial-up I
> used minicom, and later kppp to handle this... In fact, you need to
> set your device (usually /dev/modem) and use a program to dial using
> that modem, this will create the ppp0 interface for you, and also
> (most of them) will set is as the default route. Any server with
> dial-up has configurations, and that's what your ISP have in their
> script, you just find them out and put the same config at your dialer.

Thanks Daniel, I'm really strung out here.  I do have the net.ppp0
interface now.  Maybe I just need to emerge and utilize minicom?  How
can I do that when all I have is a Gentoo system that can't get online
and an XP system that can dial up?

- Grant

> On 7/6/05, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello!  My Dell Inspiron 1000 laptop is reported to have a working
> > winmodem with Slackware here:
> >
> > http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html ->
> > http://www.angelfire.com/linux/t_johnson/
> >
> > According to the article, the modem's driver can be built into the kernel via:
> >
> > Sound ->
> > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ->
> > PCI Devices ->
> > Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD MC97 Modem (EXPERIMENTAL)
> >
> > I have ppp_generic and ppp_async built as modules and autoloaded.  I
> > have slmodem emerged, but is that necessary with the kernel driver?  I
> > have net-dialup/ppp-2.4.2-r10 emerged like this:
> >
> > -activefilter
> > -atm
> > -dhcp
> > -ipv6
> > -mppe-mppc
> > +pam
> >
> > When I try to '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start' I get:
> >
> > * Bringing ppp0 up ...
> > SIOCDELRT: No such process [ ok ]
> >
> > but I don't hear any dialing and subsequent ping attempts just say
> > "unknown host".  Also, a subsequent '/etc/init.d/net.ppp0 stop' says:
> >
> > * Bringing ppp0 down ...
> > * Interface seems to be down already [ ok ]
> >
> > I can get rid of the 'SIOCDELRT: No such process' error if I change to:
> >
> > DEFROUTE="no"
> >
> > in '/etc/conf.d/net.ppp0'.  That option is defined as "Must pppd set
> > the default route?".
> >
> > Lastly, I need to use a special script that my ISP (GlobalDialUp.com)
> > provides.  How can I incorporate that?
> >
> > If I can get this working my troubles will be over!
> >
> > - Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Colin]

Grant wrote:

>>I'm not sure here (but someone will point if I'm mistaken), but ppp
>>init script is intend to bring up adsl based connections, while you
>>need a dialler to connect dial-up, back in the days I had dial-up I
>>used minicom, and later kppp to handle this... In fact, you need to
>>set your device (usually /dev/modem) and use a program to dial using
>>that modem, this will create the ppp0 interface for you, and also
>>(most of them) will set is as the default route. Any server with
>>dial-up has configurations, and that's what your ISP have in their
>>script, you just find them out and put the same config at your dialer.
>>    
>>
>
>Thanks Daniel, I'm really strung out here.  I do have the net.ppp0
>interface now.  Maybe I just need to emerge and utilize minicom?  How
>can I do that when all I have is a Gentoo system that can't get online
>and an XP system that can dial up?
>
There are two options:

1.  Network the two machines (via Ethernet, FireWire...) and set up 
Internet Connection Sharing on XP.  Tell the Gentoo box to use the XP 
box as its gateway and DNS server.  Make sure both machines use the IP 
range 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0, the XP one being 192.168.0.1.

2.  Sneaker net--use emerge -fpu whatever 2> 
/mnt/removablemedia/download.txt, and then bring download.txt to Windows 
and use the Windows version of wget to get the files that you need.  
Then copy them over to the Gentoo box.

I wrote a Wiki article on networkless installs.  You might find that 
helpful.
http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Networkless_stage1_Install

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Re: [gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Grant]

> >>I'm not sure here (but someone will point if I'm mistaken), but ppp
> >>init script is intend to bring up adsl based connections, while you
> >>need a dialler to connect dial-up, back in the days I had dial-up I
> >>used minicom, and later kppp to handle this... In fact, you need to
> >>set your device (usually /dev/modem) and use a program to dial using
> >>that modem, this will create the ppp0 interface for you, and also
> >>(most of them) will set is as the default route. Any server with
> >>dial-up has configurations, and that's what your ISP have in their
> >>script, you just find them out and put the same config at your dialer.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thanks Daniel, I'm really strung out here.  I do have the net.ppp0
> >interface now.  Maybe I just need to emerge and utilize minicom?  How
> >can I do that when all I have is a Gentoo system that can't get online
> >and an XP system that can dial up?
> >
> There are two options:
> 
> 1.  Network the two machines (via Ethernet, FireWire...) and set up
> Internet Connection Sharing on XP.  Tell the Gentoo box to use the XP
> box as its gateway and DNS server.  Make sure both machines use the IP
> range 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0, the XP one being 192.168.0.1.
> 
> 2.  Sneaker net--use emerge -fpu whatever 2>
> /mnt/removablemedia/download.txt, and then bring download.txt to Windows
> and use the Windows version of wget to get the files that you need.
> Then copy them over to the Gentoo box.
> 
> I wrote a Wiki article on networkless installs.  You might find that
> helpful.
> http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Networkless_stage1_Install
> 
> --
> Colin

Ok, thanks Colin.  I'm ready to do this to get minicom but are you
sure that is the missing piece of my puzzle?  I've asked about getting
dial-up working before and slmodem and ppp were the only mentioned
emerges.  /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 sure looks like it's a configuration
file for normal dial-up connections.  It asks for a phone number to
dial and everything.  Please confirm that I really need minicom and I
will dig into that.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] My winmodem works on linux-on-laptops.com

[Colin]

Grant wrote:

>>>>I'm not sure here (but someone will point if I'm mistaken), but ppp
>>>>init script is intend to bring up adsl based connections, while you
>>>>need a dialler to connect dial-up, back in the days I had dial-up I
>>>>used minicom, and later kppp to handle this... In fact, you need to
>>>>set your device (usually /dev/modem) and use a program to dial using
>>>>that modem, this will create the ppp0 interface for you, and also
>>>>(most of them) will set is as the default route. Any server with
>>>>dial-up has configurations, and that's what your ISP have in their
>>>>script, you just find them out and put the same config at your dialer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Thanks Daniel, I'm really strung out here.  I do have the net.ppp0
>>>interface now.  Maybe I just need to emerge and utilize minicom?  How
>>>can I do that when all I have is a Gentoo system that can't get online
>>>and an XP system that can dial up?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>There are two options:
>>
>>1.  Network the two machines (via Ethernet, FireWire...) and set up
>>Internet Connection Sharing on XP.  Tell the Gentoo box to use the XP
>>box as its gateway and DNS server.  Make sure both machines use the IP
>>range 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0, the XP one being 192.168.0.1.
>>
>>2.  Sneaker net--use emerge -fpu whatever 2>
>>/mnt/removablemedia/download.txt, and then bring download.txt to Windows
>>and use the Windows version of wget to get the files that you need.
>>Then copy them over to the Gentoo box.
>>
>>I wrote a Wiki article on networkless installs.  You might find that
>>helpful.
>>http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Networkless_stage1_Install
>>
>>--
>>Colin
>>    
>>
>
>Ok, thanks Colin.  I'm ready to do this to get minicom but are you
>sure that is the missing piece of my puzzle?  I've asked about getting
>dial-up working before and slmodem and ppp were the only mentioned
>emerges.  /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 sure looks like it's a configuration
>file for normal dial-up connections.  It asks for a phone number to
>dial and everything.  Please confirm that I really need minicom and I
>will dig into that.
>
I don't know about that.  I've never used dial-up under Linux.  But if 
things aren't working now, minicom might fix it.

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