From: Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [OT] Was re: [gentoo-user] system uptime
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:41:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4288619.Y3CmtWJjyg@wstn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E42184.6080002@gmail.com>
On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from
> > 2009. It has an i5 processor, 16GB RAM* and two 2GB SSDs as the main
> > power sinks. It sits (runs) in a boxroom 6ft square and keeps it
> > comfortably warm. I haven't noticed any change in ambient temp since the
> > SSDs replaced spinners.
> >
> > * Whoever named that Random Access had a strange understanding of English.
> > The last thing I want from memory is random access! How much better it
> > would have been to call it something like Direct Access. Oh well - much
> > too late now.
>
> It's random access to distinguish it from serial access. In the early
> early days there were a lot of strange methods being tried to build
> memory - like dots on a cathode ray tube! To get to bit you wanted, you
> had to wait till the scanning beam reached that part of the screen -
> serial access. Addressable memory on a grid pattern came much later.
Yes, of course I know all that, but it's still the antithesis of random - it's
absolutely specific. Random is what you'd get if you didn't specify anything.
My favourite storage medium was core store. Millions of tiny ferrite rings,
each at an intersection of orthogonal X and Y wires to specify the address,
and a write pulse on another wire on the Z axis. At least, that's as close as
I can remember now, 40 years later. No wonder computers were expensive.
I won't tell you what systems used a 24-bit processor and 12 or 16 KB of 2us
core store backed by a 2MB disk (three feet in diameter), for fear of
frightening you. ;-)
> Random Access really means "able to access any random address as fast as
> any other random address".
My point is simply that the addresses are very far from randomly chosen. The
distinguishing feature of the store is that you can go directly to the
required location, without having to wait for it to reach the read/write
device.
As I said though, there'd be no point in getting all stressed about it now.
> RAM is also not the opposite of ROM :-)
I seem to be having a senior moment here; at least, I don't follow that.
--
Rgds
Peter
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-30 4:04 [gentoo-user] system uptime Philip Webb
2015-08-30 4:22 ` Dale
2015-08-30 5:08 ` covici
2015-08-30 7:54 ` Dale
2015-08-30 12:20 ` Mick
2015-08-30 12:33 ` Dale
2015-08-30 6:52 ` Walter Dnes
2015-08-30 9:41 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 11:08 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 13:24 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-30 15:24 ` Daniel Frey
2015-08-30 15:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 16:03 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 13:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-30 13:58 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 14:21 ` Mick
2015-08-30 15:22 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2015-08-30 13:54 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-30 15:20 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2015-08-30 15:56 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-30 16:01 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 17:00 ` Dale
2015-08-30 17:05 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 17:26 ` Mick
2015-08-30 17:50 ` Dale
2015-08-31 8:50 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-31 9:42 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-31 13:41 ` Peter Humphrey [this message]
2015-08-31 14:39 ` [OT] Was " Alan McKinnon
2015-08-31 15:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Was " James
2015-09-01 14:19 ` [OT] Was re: [gentoo-user] " Peter Humphrey
2015-08-31 21:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 16:06 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 17:11 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-30 17:56 ` Terry Z.
2015-09-03 15:32 ` Philip Webb
2015-09-03 17:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-03 18:12 ` Philip Webb
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