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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:36:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4221035.bOF7vk8orf@nazgul> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E15F000.7040806@orlitzky.com>

On Thursday 07 July 2011 13:42:24 Michael Orlitzky did opine thusly:
> > Holy shit, that attitude from Samuli sucks big balls big time.
> >
> > 
> >
> > He's always come across to me as an OK dev, never seen him pull
> > THAT  stunt before.
> 
> For what it's worth, I was expecting much worse. In his defense, the
> commenters list a bunch of bugs in other packages as the reason why
> they want to retain gtk2 support in the gnome-mplayer ebuild.
> 
> Per comment 21, the Gnome team suggests that packages use the latest
> version of gtk that works.

Yes, that's "suggests" they use "that latest that works", not 
"demands", "insists", "mandates" or "requires", and not "only the 
latest version that works".

> The gnome-mplayer package is supported on the alpha, amd64, ppc,
> ppc64, x86, and x86-fbsd arches. Adding a gtk2 USE flag means that
> the testing load would be doubled; that the maintainer would have
> to recompile the package six times on six different machines to
> make sure that it runs with gtk2.
> 
> Then, to go stable (in addition to now being tied to the stable
> gtk2), the arch testers would have to re-test on all six of those
> arches.
> 
> So, the additional burden isn't so small as it's made out to be in
> the comments.

And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden, 
alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison?

How about the devs relook at this and do it sanely. When the major 
consumer of gtk+ (gnome itself) has a stable gtk+-3 very in stable, 
then other packages follow suit, not before.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-07 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-06 16:35 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it? Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-06 17:23 ` pk
2011-07-06 19:37   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 20:02     ` pk
2011-07-06 20:41       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 22:53         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06 23:06           ` Dale
2011-07-06 23:20             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-06 23:21             ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:04               ` Dale
2011-07-07 17:42     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 19:36       ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2011-07-07 20:01         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 20:47           ` Dale
2011-07-07 20:57             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-07 21:03               ` Dale
2011-07-08  4:42           ` 微菜
2011-07-06 18:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-07  2:12 ` 微菜
2011-07-07  2:45   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:31     ` 微菜
2011-07-07  7:30   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 12:07     ` Stroller
2011-07-07 22:50       ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-07 23:40         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-07 16:44     ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2011-07-07 17:14       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-07 23:52     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 12:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-07-08 13:14   ` Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 15:19     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 17:39       ` Stroller
2011-07-09  7:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-09 14:02           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 17:50       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 19:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 20:32         ` Stroller
2011-07-09 16:28       ` William Hubbs
2011-07-09 20:24         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 18:03     ` Stroller
2011-07-08 13:37   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras

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