[gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

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Hello list,

My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and 
konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely wide 
spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?

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Regards,
Peter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Davyd McColl]

Those spaces look like where I have icons. Perhaps try changing theme? And 
change back? Perhaps it's just a theming issue.
I also had a bunch of KDE updates last night, but I'm not seeing any odd 
behavior, even after a log out / log back in again.
Not sure what versions yours are, but my KDE is stable.

-d


On July 30, 2018 12:18:37 Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely wide
> spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 30 July 2018 17:11:16 BST Davyd McColl wrote:
> Those spaces look like where I have icons. Perhaps try changing theme? And
> change back? Perhaps it's just a theming issue.

The icons disappeared at the last update: kde-frameworks, I think it was. 
I've rebooted several times since then, but the icons haven't reappeared. 
And the silly spacing has remained.

> I also had a bunch of KDE updates last night, but I'm not seeing any odd
> behavior, even after a log out / log back in again.
> Not sure what versions yours are, but my KDE is stable.

Mine too.

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Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Davyd McColl]

I'm not an expert on KDE internals, but I would guess that it's either a 
problem with the theme or the rendering of the theme. The easier one to 
test is the former - perhaps emerge kde-plasma/breeze, select the breeze 
theme from KDE control panel and log out / back in again. If that doesn't 
work, I'm afraid you've hit the limit of my helpfulness, fwiw.

-d


On July 31, 2018 03:01:15 Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Monday, 30 July 2018 17:11:16 BST Davyd McColl wrote:
>> Those spaces look like where I have icons. Perhaps try changing theme? And
>> change back? Perhaps it's just a theming issue.
>
> The icons disappeared at the last update: kde-frameworks, I think it was.
> I've rebooted several times since then, but the icons haven't reappeared.
> And the silly spacing has remained.
>
>> I also had a bunch of KDE updates last night, but I'm not seeing any odd
>> behavior, even after a log out / log back in again.
>> Not sure what versions yours are, but my KDE is stable.
>
> Mine too.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[J. Roeleveld]

On Monday, July 30, 2018 12:18:22 PM CEST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely wide
> spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?

I see this sometimes when:
1) I didn't fully logout/reboot after a major update
2) I connect to an X-session using "X2Go"

I haven't had this happen recently though, not entirely sure what solved it as 
I have been playing a lot with settings and "emerge -e" on the single machine 
I access via "X2go".

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:15:46 BST J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 12:18:22 PM CEST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> > konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely
> > wide spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?
> 
> I see this sometimes when:
> 1) I didn't fully logout/reboot after a major update
> 2) I connect to an X-session using "X2Go"
> 
> I haven't had this happen recently though, not entirely sure what solved
> it as I have been playing a lot with settings and "emerge -e" on the
> single machine I access via "X2go".

That's interesting. I hadn't heard of X2go before; is there an equivalent 
for Android clients? It could be quite usable on my 10.5" tablet.

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Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Neil Bothwick]

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On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:15:46 BST J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 12:18:22 PM CEST Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> > My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
>> > konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with
>extremely
>> > wide spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?
>> 
>> I see this sometimes when:
>> 1) I didn't fully logout/reboot after a major update
>> 2) I connect to an X-session using "X2Go"
>> 
>> I haven't had this happen recently though, not entirely sure what
>solved
>> it as I have been playing a lot with settings and "emerge -e" on the
>> single machine I access via "X2go".
>
>That's interesting. I hadn't heard of X2go before; is there an
>equivalent 
>for Android clients? It could be quite usable on my 10.5" tablet.
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Peter.

Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid version of Juice SSH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:06:48 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey 
<peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
--->8
> > is there an equivalent for Android clients? It could be quite usable on
> > my 10.5" tablet.
> 
> Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid version
> of Juice SSH.

Is that a good way for me to gain access to my Plasma desktop over the 
Internet from my tablet, or would some kind of VPN be better?

(This has strayed from the original topic, but that seems to have fizzled 
out anyway.)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Neil Bothwick]

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On 1 August 2018 16:07:49 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:06:48 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey 
><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>--->8
>> > is there an equivalent for Android clients? It could be quite
>usable on
>> > my 10.5" tablet.
>> 
>> Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid
>version
>> of Juice SSH.
>
>Is that a good way for me to gain access to my Plasma desktop over the 
>Internet from my tablet, or would some kind of VPN be better?
>
>(This has strayed from the original topic, but that seems to have
>fizzled 
>out anyway.)
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Peter.

You can run individual apps over X this way, for the whole desktop, VNC would be better. I really should have set that up on Monday, before I came into hospital, but who thought the NHS would start offering free WiFi?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Mick]

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On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:47:09 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On 1 August 2018 16:07:49 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> 
wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:06:48 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey
> >
> ><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >--->8
> >
> >> > is there an equivalent for Android clients? It could be quite
> >
> >usable on
> >
> >> > my 10.5" tablet.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid
> >
> >version
> >
> >> of Juice SSH.
> >
> >Is that a good way for me to gain access to my Plasma desktop over the
> >Internet from my tablet, or would some kind of VPN be better?
> >
> >(This has strayed from the original topic, but that seems to have
> >fizzled
> >out anyway.)
> 
> You can run individual apps over X this way, for the whole desktop, VNC
> would be better. I really should have set that up on Monday, before I came
> into hospital, but who thought the NHS would start offering free WiFi?

Apparently they saved money from canceled hip operations, so they can afford 
the ISP contract for WiFi.

PS. I hope your hospital visit is quick and painless.  :-)

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:47:09 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On 1 August 2018 16:07:49 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey 
<peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:06:48 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey
> ><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >--->8
> >> > is there an equivalent for Android clients? It could be quite
> >> > usable on my 10.5" tablet.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid
> >> version of Juice SSH.
> >
> >Is that a good way for me to gain access to my Plasma desktop over the
> >Internet from my tablet, or would some kind of VPN be better?
> >
> >(This has strayed from the original topic, but that seems to have
> >fizzled out anyway.)
> 
> You can run individual apps over X this way, for the whole desktop, VNC
> would be better. I really should have set that up on Monday, before I
> came into hospital, but who thought the NHS would start offering free
> WiFi?

Eek! It's a far cry from when they used to prohibit mobile phones for fear 
of interferance with their electronics.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Neil Bothwick]

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On 1 August 2018 17:54:16 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:47:09 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On 1 August 2018 16:07:49 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey 
><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:06:48 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >> On 1 August 2018 08:38:32 GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey
>> ><peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> >--->8
>> >> > is there an equivalent for Android clients? It could be quite
>> >> > usable on my 10.5" tablet.
>> >> 
>> >> Unfortunately not, although you can do X forwarding with the paid
>> >> version of Juice SSH.
>> >
>> >Is that a good way for me to gain access to my Plasma desktop over
>the
>> >Internet from my tablet, or would some kind of VPN be better?
>> >
>> >(This has strayed from the original topic, but that seems to have
>> >fizzled out anyway.)
>> 
>> You can run individual apps over X this way, for the whole desktop,
>VNC
>> would be better. I really should have set that up on Monday, before I
>> came into hospital, but who thought the NHS would start offering free
>> WiFi?
>
>Eek! It's a far cry from when they used to prohibit mobile phones for
>fear 
>of interferance with their electronics.
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Peter.

They let you take phones and tablets into theatre here.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 30 July 2018 11:18:22 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely wide
> spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?

I tried creating a new user for myself, and got the same results, including 
the missing icons. So it isn't anything wrong in my home directory. 

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Mick]

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On Thursday, 2 August 2018 07:10:00 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 30 July 2018 11:18:22 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> > konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely wide
> > spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?
> 
> I tried creating a new user for myself, and got the same results, including
> the missing icons. So it isn't anything wrong in my home directory.

Are you running a full Plasma DE?

I have missing icons here for more than a year on KDE applications (or 
whatever they are called this semester), on non-Plasma desktop.

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Layout problem in latest KDE apps

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 13:27:45 BST Mick wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 August 2018 07:10:00 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Monday, 30 July 2018 11:18:22 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > My daily update yesterday included 100 kde-apps/* . Now dolphin and
> > > konqueror-as-a-file-manager have their panels laid out with extremely
> > > wide spacing (example attached). Is this my fault or theirs?
> > 
> > I tried creating a new user for myself, and got the same results,
> > including the missing icons.

I also spent several hours today rebuilding the entire system from
scratch[1], and then creating a new user. I didn't even copy my .mozilla
directory. Still no improvement.

> Are you running a full Plasma DE?

Yes, the full works, with just the tweaks that the control panel allows.
Nothing non-standard.

Here's my entire package.use:

app-emulation/virtualbox        additions extensions java python
net-libs/webkit-gtk             -webgl
x11-libs/wxGTK                  webkit
www-client/chromium             -hangouts jumbo-build
dev-lang/python                 sqlite
sys-firmware/intel-microcode    initramfs
sys-kernel/linux-firmware       savedconfig
media-fonts/terminus-font       center-tilde distinct-l
app-admin/gkrellm               hddtemp
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources       symlink
app-office/kmymoney             calendar hbci ofx quotes
sys-libs/gwenhywfar             qt4
app-office/libreoffice          googledrive pdfimport
dev-libs/xmlsec                 nss
www-client/links                -X -jpeg -png -tiff -directfb -fbcon -sdl
media-libs/mesa                 opencl
dev-qt/qtwebengine              -system-icu
net-misc/tigervnc               server
media-libs/mesa                 -vaapi
sys-devel/llvm                  clang video_cards_radeon
x11-libs/libdrm                 video_cards_radeon

> I have missing icons here for more than a year on KDE applications (or
> whatever they are called this semester), on non-Plasma desktop.

1.	This is my standard procedure for rebuilding the entire system:

$ cat /usr/local/bin/ejsys
#!/bin/bash
emerge --jobs -1 gcc && emerge --jobs -1 binutils && emerge --jobs -1 glibc
emerge --jobs --load-average=36 --keep-going --nospinner \
        --exclude="gcc binutils glibc" @system linux-firmware intel-microcode

Then make mrproper; cp /boot/<current config> .config; kmake

$ cat /usr/local bin/kmake:
#!/bin/bash
mount /boot
cd /usr/src/linux
make -j12 && make modules_install && make install &&\
        cp -v ./arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/EFI/Boot/bootX64.efi &&\
echo && echo "Rebuilding modules" && echo &&\
emerge --jobs --load-average=48 @module-rebuild @x11-module-rebuild && echo &&\
echo "Remaking microcode images" &&\
/usr/sbin/iucode_tool -S --write-earlyfw=/boot/early_ucode.cpio /lib/firmware/intel-ucode/* && echo &&\
echo "Remounting /sys/firmware/efi/efivars read-write" &&\
mount -oremount,rw /sys/firmware/efi/efivars && echo &&\
echo "Don't forget to bootctl-install the new kernel!" && echo

$ cat /usr/local/bin/ejeworld
#!/bin/bash
emerge --jobs --load-average=48 --keep-going --nospinner \
        --exclude="$(cat system.pkgs) linux-firmware intel-microcode" -e @world

system.pkgs contains the names of the 43 packages that are emerged by @system.

I don't know what else I can try. Help, anyone?

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Regards,
Peter.