* [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps @ 2014-08-24 2:30 meino.cramer 2014-08-24 8:29 ` Alan McKinnon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 2:30 UTC (permalink / raw To: Gentoo hi, How can I resolve this blocker: (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) sys-process/procps required by @system (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/openrc required by @system sys-apps/openrc required by @selected sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, installed) >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 2:30 [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 8:29 ` Alan McKinnon 2014-08-24 9:23 ` meino.cramer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Alan McKinnon @ 2014-08-24 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > How can I resolve this blocker: > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > sys-process/procps required by @system > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, installed) > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! There is no blocker there -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 8:29 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2014-08-24 9:23 ` meino.cramer 2014-08-24 10:33 ` Mick 2014-08-24 10:35 ` J. Roeleveld 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 9:23 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: > On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > > hi, > > > > How can I resolve this blocker: > > > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > > sys-process/procps required by @system > > > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by > > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, installed) > > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > > > There is no blocker there > > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > Hi Alan, sorry, I missed some lines of text: [blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 ("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 kB Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from * http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-download-435117.html * (agree to the license) and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that * the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the file * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) sys-process/procps required by @system (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/openrc required by @system sys-apps/openrc required by @selected sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, installed) >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) Best regards, mcc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 9:23 ` meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 10:33 ` Mick 2014-08-24 10:46 ` meino.cramer 2014-08-24 10:35 ` J. Roeleveld 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Mick @ 2014-08-24 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: Text/Plain, Size: 2891 bytes --] On Sunday 24 Aug 2014 10:23:34 meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: > > On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > > > hi, > > > > > > How can I resolve this blocker: > > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > > > > > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, > > > installed) sys-process/procps required by @system > > > > > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled > > > in by > > > > > > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > > > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > > > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > > > installed) > > > > > > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, > > > >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > > > There is no blocker there > > Hi Alan, > > sorry, I missed some lines of text: > > > [blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 > ("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) > > Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 kB > Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) > Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) > > Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: > * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from > * > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-> download-435117.html * (agree to the license) and place it in > /usr/portage/distfiles > * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher > * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). > * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that > * the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the file > * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to > * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > sys-process/procps required by @system > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > installed) > > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, > >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > Best regards, > mcc This is how I would go about it: Uninstall sys-process/procps, then run emerge and let portage do its thing. -- Regards, Mick [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 473 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 10:33 ` Mick @ 2014-08-24 10:46 ` meino.cramer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> [14-08-24 12:36]: > On Sunday 24 Aug 2014 10:23:34 meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: > > > On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > How can I resolve this blocker: > > > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > > > > > > > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, > > > > installed) sys-process/procps required by @system > > > > > > > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled > > > > in by > > > > > > > > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > > > > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > > > > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > > > > installed) > > > > > > > > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, > > > > >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > > > > > There is no blocker there > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > sorry, I missed some lines of text: > > > > > > [blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 > > ("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) > > > > Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 kB > > Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) > > Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) > > > > Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: > > * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from > > * > > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-> download-435117.html * (agree to the license) and place it in > > /usr/portage/distfiles > > * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher > > * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). > > * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that > > * the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the file > > * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to > > * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. > > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > > sys-process/procps required by @system > > > > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by > > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > > installed) > > > > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, > > >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > > Best regards, > > mcc > > This is how I would go about it: > > Uninstall sys-process/procps, then run emerge and let portage do its thing. > > -- > Regards, > Mick ...results in the same blocker... (mysql pulls procps) Best regards, mcc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 9:23 ` meino.cramer 2014-08-24 10:33 ` Mick @ 2014-08-24 10:35 ` J. Roeleveld 2014-08-24 10:40 ` meino.cramer 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: J. Roeleveld @ 2014-08-24 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 24 August 2014 11:23:34 CEST, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: >Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: >> On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: >> > hi, >> > >> > How can I resolve this blocker: >> > >> > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >> > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, >installed) >> > sys-process/procps required by @system >> > >> > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >pulled in by >> > sys-apps/openrc required by @system >> > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected >> > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, >installed) >> > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by >(net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >> > >> > Thank you very much in advance for any help! >> >> >> >> There is no blocker there >> >> >> >> -- >> Alan McKinnon >> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com >> >> > > >Hi Alan, > >sorry, I missed some lines of text: > > >[blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 >("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) > >Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 >kB >Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) >Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) > >Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: > * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from >* >http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-download-435117.html > * (agree to the license) and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles > * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher > * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). > * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that >* the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the >file > * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to > * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > sys-process/procps required by @system > >(sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in >by > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected >sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, >installed) >>=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > >Best regards, >mcc Update procps to a later version. Or update mysql if that specifically want that version. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 10:35 ` J. Roeleveld @ 2014-08-24 10:40 ` meino.cramer 2014-08-24 11:50 ` Samuli Suominen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org> [14-08-24 12:36]: > On 24 August 2014 11:23:34 CEST, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > >Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: > >> On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > >> > hi, > >> > > >> > How can I resolve this blocker: > >> > > >> > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > >> > sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, > >installed) > >> > sys-process/procps required by @system > >> > > >> > (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > >pulled in by > >> > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > >> > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > >> > sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > >installed) > >> > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by > >(net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > >> > > >> > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > >> > >> > >> > >> There is no blocker there > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alan McKinnon > >> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > >> > >> > > > > > >Hi Alan, > > > >sorry, I missed some lines of text: > > > > > >[blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 > >("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) > > > >Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 > >kB > >Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) > >Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) > > > >Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: > > * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from > >* > >http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-download-435117.html > > * (agree to the license) and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles > > * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher > > * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). > > * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that > >* the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the > >file > > * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to > > * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. > > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > > > (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > >sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) > > sys-process/procps required by @system > > > >(sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in > >by > > sys-apps/openrc required by @system > > sys-apps/openrc required by @selected > >sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, > >installed) > >>=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, > >ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > > > >Best regards, > >mcc > > Update procps to a later version. > Or update mysql if that specifically want that version. > > -- > Joost > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > Procps is already at its newest version. eix -I procps [I] sys-process/procps Available versions: 3.3.6 3.3.8-r2 3.3.9 ~3.3.9-r1 ~3.3.9-r2 {+ncurses nls selinux static-libs systemd test unicode} Installed versions: 3.3.9(03:38:35 08/24/14)(ncurses nls unicode -static-libs -test) Homepage: http://procps.sourceforge.net/ http://gitorious.org/procps Description: standard informational utilities and process-handling tools I had updated mysql but it does not help (same version of procps is used). Best regards, mcc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps 2014-08-24 10:40 ` meino.cramer @ 2014-08-24 11:50 ` Samuli Suominen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Samuli Suominen @ 2014-08-24 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 24/08/14 13:40, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org> [14-08-24 12:36]: >> On 24 August 2014 11:23:34 CEST, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> [14-08-24 10:32]: >>>> On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: >>>>> hi, >>>>> >>>>> How can I resolve this blocker: >>>>> >>>>> (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >>>>> sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, >>> installed) >>>>> sys-process/procps required by @system >>>>> >>>>> (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >>> pulled in by >>>>> sys-apps/openrc required by @system >>>>> sys-apps/openrc required by @selected >>>>> sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, >>> installed) >>>>> >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by >>> (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >>>>> Thank you very much in advance for any help! >>>> >>>> >>>> There is no blocker there >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alan McKinnon >>>> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> sorry, I missed some lines of text: >>> >>> >>> [blocks B ] <sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2 >>> ("<sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1) >>> >>> Total: 109 packages (108 upgrades, 1 new), Size of downloads: 1,107,696 >>> kB >>> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied) >>> Conflict: 2 blocks (1 unsatisfied) >>> >>> Fetch instructions for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60: >>> * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from >>> * >>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-download-435117.html >>> * (agree to the license) and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles >>> * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher >>> * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below). >>> * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that >>> * the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the >>> file >>> * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to >>> * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision. >>> >>> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be >>> * installed at the same time on the same system. >>> >>> (sys-process/procps-3.3.9::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >>> sys-process/procps required by (dev-db/mysql-5.5.39::gentoo, installed) >>> sys-process/procps required by @system >>> >>> (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in >>> by >>> sys-apps/openrc required by @system >>> sys-apps/openrc required by @selected >>> sys-apps/openrc required by (virtual/service-manager-0::gentoo, >>> installed) >>>> =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 required by (net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2::gentoo, >>> ebuild scheduled for merge) >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> mcc >> Update procps to a later version. >> Or update mysql if that specifically want that version. >> >> -- >> Joost >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > > Procps is already at its newest version. No, it's not. > > eix -I procps > [I] sys-process/procps > Available versions: 3.3.6 3.3.8-r2 3.3.9 ~3.3.9-r1 ~3.3.9-r2 {+ncurses nls selinux static-libs systemd test unicode} 3.3.9-r2 latest. > Installed versions: 3.3.9(03:38:35 08/24/14)(ncurses nls unicode -static-libs -test) 3.3.9, not 3.3.9-r2, installed. As in, you need to upgrade to 3.3.9-r2 to use openrc-0.13, because older than 3.3.9-r2 have broken config file reading, and won't work properly with openrc-0.13 So, simple solution: # emerge -1 ">=sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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