From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nl44u-0006Xw-El for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:34:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E4E2E09B2; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05630E09B2 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so172453pwi.40 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:33:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hLb/0qbPhKf1rwB96KH6u14z1A0wsbC/SVENovlchh0=; b=ZJXqzY/V5Sa+loL0qD1XoTuDmkoYrmZ+1CJkwP2T+4VFn4QC1sECwwBn14tgxi2zaz kaDqZoE3R7vF8aDZAJGmd9eDz3yOQZPiVSzgSx27G1H7FMhL3hU0F5/x+gaM5OrDEZKL LvG+Dybw6EO7CVDRu72JY08eO8tdDS3g7N78Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FToPxoT7QnaX5KnTrlAQppSky82QZ9uLeRSxYap4UgoLMQ6xLXziAjqUKz+8fvgsAy sMZIvk9YcnhvbPvPfDVitVI2/gacl7VpDtvjxebtXtwtRmYCeblZH+VxoJzSxecwKrt7 dvKtpbjHhvAJ8m33NU3/QNpMiGDJwoFhjl2Nw= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.7.29 with SMTP id 29mr385222wfg.192.1267205629478; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:33:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <49bf44f10911190844i5cb77185me60d5eb44ff2bfc7@mail.gmail.com> <20100224205159.71dd79be@digimed.co.uk> <201002251741.13525.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <3ac129341002250950h376f57d5y241e6efeb7080b20@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:33:49 +0900 Message-ID: <3ac129341002260933l283bc7ffg3825792302d95f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system From: daid kahl To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b230ab62-5f88-4757-87b2-10ba4ca5fd9f X-Archives-Hash: e8e3a2e2b10e896552cfea2768fc85ec On 26 February 2010 22:23, Ward Poelmans wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl wrote: > >> As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however. =A0When >> this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, >> 440 permissions, where users are in some useful 'backup' group, then >> while tarball can be read to be passed across server, if tarball is >> extracted, user has no more privs then they have on the system anyway >> (I'm not saying chmod -R). =A0Then local tarball can be removed or >> whatever. > > It's not a bad idea, but you need enough free space on the client to > backup the entire system (which for me is not the case). Secondly, > every backup you do is a full backup as rsnapshot needs to access a > backup todo a incremental backup. You could mess around with something > like sshfs but's it's not great either. A straight rsync between > client and server could do it but it would suprise me if this doesn't > already exist in some form. > > Regards, > > Ward > Thanks for the feedback. For now, as you may easily guess, this case does not apply to me personally since I mostly just admin my own personal machine. But I think you raise very relevant difficulties with my suggestion for a practical administrative case for multiple machines. ~daid