From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MvhNg-0003Gy-Id for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:01:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0019DE09D1; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA26E09D1 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so793183bwz.34 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t/LxEnEaajqKepf07VfPZGL7bQbyOECKHGfbti5xTj0=; b=sB5JWu7TMIo76kY/hj4aKheOjrLx3MjwJY1GaIrIxjF4mTnzcboQWSjqePAOPr9BHj s4GccHiF388cAykJSifUvRsiSbjI+kFdAde/nIwig7ZNn9K6ZFhj5eHOr6QeJdZfKSQf N7dgagnBDbCXeYxJCRcW+ax8L8B8gLMlbBT9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NGkG7YztUTbMeGAZmpmzWXd8OdOqFRvRA3hCPEDJzaeNIIfyD0hU6IY3iTAisZrKvu GnYBfv8ifM/LiWoPqq+h9HY+6h/dZ7WuTkrKe7AfWQWjdMpVl9BY3wUWhXRC9dQtWEgY mWmTD1Dy6oHTsuV98ogqYtS3Kr+8gzAei9hDs= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.97 with SMTP id n33mr35434hba.183.1254963677737; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49bf44f10910062002n420debdaj9f21a716d041458e@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0910070837t6ebfcebew1dc06762dea31f8a@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10910070934n4a1558d6m7a532a711303a58f@mail.gmail.com> <4ACCCA58.6020104@badapple.net> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:01:17 +0900 Message-ID: <3ac129340910071801n7f15ac7bo96ea8e84a12b3cec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New laptop is slow. From: daid kahl To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27b5637b2050475620034 X-Archives-Salt: d7f09252-f5f3-4b8a-b76b-3ccbde0a083e X-Archives-Hash: f550e96d6180908c8bcf049b3623fb29 --001485f27b5637b2050475620034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > >>> I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro > > > > Now that it's working how do you like the screen, size, etc? That's one > > of the laptops I've been considering. > > > You just have to admire and honest (Dell) company.... > > I had a Dell laptop a few years back. It was the reason for maybe 2 years I didn't have a PC at all (which is very strange for my life). I think almost every single component on it broke in a matter of 18-24 months. It was purchased through a university, and I think the IT department must have thought I was using it as a frisbee on a regular basis . A friend around the same time had a different model and it was also a pile. Not that N=2 statistics mean anything, of course. Not sure anymore, but Dell was built on two basic policies: 1) Make profit by cutting out the middle man (you had to order things directly from Dell) 2) Buy the cheapest (crappiest) parts in bulk and assemble. I'm using Apple now, and aside from an entourage of complaints on the "assume user is an idiot" (fixed by running Linux) and proprietary hardware (everything can be hacked), the beast is rock solid. Of course, one of my friends has the exact same model laptop and he had to ship it back like three times, so...who knows? Then again, the price of Vostros will blow Macbooks out of the water. I guess you could just buy two Dells and cannibalize one when the keyboard/powersupply/harddrive/optical drive/usb port/ethernet port/screen hinge breaks (a short list of my old Dell problems). Regards, daid --001485f27b5637b2050475620034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> >>> I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro


> Now that it's working how do you like the = screen, size, etc? That's one
> of the laptops I've been considering.


You just have to admire and honest (Dell) company....


I had a Dell laptop a few years back.=A0 It was t= he reason for maybe 2 years I didn't have a PC at all (which is very st= range for my life).=A0 I think almost every single component on it broke in= a matter of 18-24 months.=A0 It was purchased through a university, and I = think the IT department must have thought I was using it as a frisbee on a regular basis .=A0 A fri= end around the same time had a different model and it was also a pile.
<= br>Not that N=3D2 statistics mean anything, of course.=A0 Not sure anymore,= but Dell was built on two basic policies: 1) Make profit by cutting out th= e middle man (you had to order things directly from Dell) 2) Buy the cheape= st (crappiest) parts in bulk and assemble.

I'm using Apple now, and aside from an entourage of complaints on t= he "assume user is an idiot" (fixed by running Linux) and proprie= tary hardware (everything can be hacked), the beast is rock solid.=A0 Of co= urse, one of my friends has the exact same model laptop and he had to ship = it back like three times, so...who knows?

Then again, the price of Vostros will blow Macbooks out of the water.= =A0 I guess you could just buy two Dells and cannibalize one when the keybo= ard/powersupply/harddrive/optical drive/usb port/ethernet port/screen hinge= breaks (a short list of my old Dell problems).

Regards,
daid

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