From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N1yvS-0000jh-2G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:58:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80DDEE076B; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E2DE076B for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:58:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,619,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="137002982" Received: from unknown (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 25 Oct 2009 08:58:07 +0000 Received: from funf.stroller.uk.eu.org (funf.stroller.uk.eu.org [192.168.1.71]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5C124C7 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:58:05 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <3A5DCCEB-6753-4B21-8FAA-7CC8EA9FFEDB@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> From: Stroller To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4AE376C9.1080109@xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory? Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:58:05 +0000 References: <4AE23B78.2050007@xs4all.nl> <20091024085302.5e969b00@majikthise> <4AE2F9D8.6010401@xs4all.nl> <200910242218.41242.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4AE376C9.1080109@xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Archives-Salt: 586be4c2-f37e-4c43-9171-bcfa5a38e061 X-Archives-Hash: a430c65f7399e0ab245529301720f827 On 24 Oct 2009, at 22:51, Dave Jones wrote: > ... > How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become > the > resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be > used > only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If > that > is so, then shame on me, I must have missed that announcement too. I'm really in two minds about posting this, because the above is so aggravating and whiny. Getting on a soap-box and complaining about the other list users (i.e. me and us) seems to imply that it's somehow everyone else's responsibility to fix your problem for you. However, I'm wondering if the original suggestion to search the find archives might have antagonised you less if it had been phrased differently. Mention of "the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and dbus/hal" only seem to have confused matters; "hashed to death" may be an exaggeration, as I can only (immediately) find the one thread. Perhaps if Alan had asked "did you read last week's thread on this subject?" you might have gone and found: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/199323 Stroller.