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From: "Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto" <please.no.spam.here@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] filesystems
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:51:44 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38af3d670811282151n59089c9fg88eb0aa2e06b2deb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1227787959.3316.11.camel@maya.local>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Daniel Troeder <daniel@admin-box.com> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 26.11.2008, 15:26 +0100 schrieb Florian Philipp:
>> > As for my photos, I can back all the collection to a single DVD (and
>> > to a second one, since I keep hearing that DVD-Rs are unreliable), and
>> > since I don't take new photos every week, this solution is fine.
>>
>> A second DVD-R won't solve the problem because optical disks degrade
>> over time and the second one will degrade just as fast as the first.
>> What you need to do is to check the disks periodically (once a year is a
>> good time frame).
>> I myself would add a textfile with md5sums for all files to the DVD so
>> you don't have to check them visually.
I have recently taken this decision too. Unfortunately I haven't done
so for some old backups (fortunately they still seem healthy)
> You can buy so called "archival grade" DVD-Rs that should work for 10-20
> years in a good environment. There are hugh differences between
> products. In germany you can buy very good ones from Verbatim for around
> 2€/disk.
This can be hard to find in my mid-sized Brazilian city. If I lived in
the mega-metropolis of São Paulo, this would be far easier. And thanks
very much for recommending Verbatim. I have heard of Taiyo Yuden, but
that would likely be far harder to find.

Speaking of md5sum/shasum, do you know some tool that adds data
redundancy? I heard dvddistaster does this, but I guess it is limited
to DVDs. It would be great fo find a general data redundancy tool. In
the moment, with the tools I know, the best I can do is store the
files twice, with md5sums/shasums to decide which version is correct.
By the way, it seems from my (limited) experience that even sha256sums
are IO-bound (even on my not-so-powerful Athlon XP 2600+), so it makes
sense to calculate sha256sums (as instead of md5sums) even it is
overkill. To be doubly sure, one can calculate sha256sums *and*
md5sums.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-29  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-23 22:31 [gentoo-user] filesystems William Kenworthy
2008-11-23 23:00 ` [gentoo-user] [OT] filesystems Kobboi
2008-11-24  1:06   ` Dale
2008-11-24  1:42     ` W.Kenworthy
2008-11-24  5:58       ` Roy Wright
2008-11-24 15:18         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-24  6:28     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24  6:38       ` Dale
2008-11-24 10:53         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 11:07           ` Dale
2008-11-24 12:17             ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 12:49               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 12:59                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 13:50                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 14:56                     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 15:41                     ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-24 21:47                       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2008-11-24 22:05                         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 22:15                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-24 22:56                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 23:41                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25  0:22                               ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2008-11-25 10:47                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 11:42                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 11:53                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25  9:15                           ` [gentoo-user] " Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25  9:07                         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 10:02                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-24 21:09                     ` Dale
2008-11-25  7:34                       ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-25  8:27                         ` Dale
2008-11-25 17:57                           ` Paul Hartman
2008-11-25 18:37                             ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 18:57                               ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 19:26                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-26  9:29                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:22                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 19:07                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 19:24                                 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 19:40                                   ` KH
2008-11-25 20:02                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 20:19                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-25 20:58                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 21:11                                       ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-11-25 21:15                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 21:35                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 21:43                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 22:06                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 22:11                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:16                                             ` Stroller
2008-11-26 19:03                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-27  9:18                                                 ` Anthony Metcalf
2008-11-26  0:00                                           ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-26 14:26                                             ` Florian Philipp
2008-11-27 12:12                                               ` Daniel Troeder
2008-11-27 18:22                                                 ` KH
2008-11-29  5:51                                                 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [this message]
2008-12-01  3:38                                                   ` Shawn Haggett
2008-12-01  8:58                                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-12-09 10:56                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2008-11-29  6:01                                               ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-29 11:30                                                 ` Florian Philipp
2008-11-26  9:18                                           ` Stroller
2008-11-25 20:40                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 22:07                                   ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-26  0:22                                     ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2008-11-26  0:45                                       ` W.Kenworthy
2008-11-26  3:41                                         ` Philip Webb
2008-11-26  5:05                                         ` Dale
2008-11-26 14:06                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2008-11-26 18:50                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-26 19:18                                             ` Dale
2008-11-26  1:02                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-26 10:41                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-26  9:24                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-11-25 20:34                               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-25 19:01                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-11-25 20:27                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-11-26  3:59                             ` Dale
2008-11-24  6:30 ` [gentoo-user] filesystems Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 10:30   ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 11:07     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 12:03       ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:15         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 12:35       ` Stroller
2008-11-24 12:44         ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:50           ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 13:13             ` William Kenworthy
2008-11-24 12:46         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-11-24 15:12       ` Dirk Heinrichs

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