Re: [gentoo-user] e17 overlay bug

["Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto" <please.no.spam.here@gmail.com>]

> Mike Frysinger - he's a busy man :-) He heads up the gentoo toolchain team, is
> a lead kernel dev on the blackfin architecture, recently was (maybe still is)
> on the gentoo council. And maintains an e17 overlay.
Oh boy. I would donate money to him if I wasn't a poor student and if
the dollar wasn't so overvalued related to my national currency ($1
was R$1,58 some months ago, but is now R$2,10). By the way, people
like him should keep an easy way of receiving anonymous donations. I
plan on donating a little money to free software in the future. I
think I will donate to national projects, because they are probably
more starved than projects in the US, the land where  hammers are made
of gold.

>> Also, why are the snapshot ebuilds so horribly outdated?
> The snapshot ebuilds are not out of date - the e17 snapshots are :-)
It seems (see http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/LATEST/)
that the latest e17 snapshots are from 2008-09-24. However, last time
I checked the e17 overlay (and I can't easily check it now because I
am at work), the snapshot ebuilds were a year old or something.

> If you use e17 svn code, be prepared to act like a dev. That's what the e17
> team expects, that's how they build the thing currently and that's the price
> we have to pay to get to use that wm.
Well, I guess I will stick with Xfce for a while then. After all, it
takes something like two more seconds to load (I measured it some time
ago, but forgot the results) than e17 on my Athlon XP 2600+, and
that's bearable. Also, while I miss e17 power*, the loss of it is also
bearable

> I myself got tired of eternally fiddling with e and have resorted to using kde
> until things settle down...
KDE?! To go from e17 to KDE is a bit extreme; like "this micro-compact
does not fulfill my transportation needs, so I will buy an SUV". Why
don't you use Xfce? It is small, fast, lightweight, quite configurable
(both by GUI and by text files**), compiles very quickly and has
everything I want a DE to have. Have you not thought about it?

And going off-topic: I mentioned that Gentoo's GCC and Xorg are too
old. Do you know if there is any prediction (yes, I know predictions
can fail; I am waiting for Debian Lenny since September) for their
upgrade? Is there anywhere I can get information like this?

* A quick example of e17 power is making my TV-viewing program
borderless. Programs that are always on top should be borderless to
save screen space. Imagine if, for example, the KDE panel had a
border.

** That "programs with a GUI should also have a command-line
interface, and configuration should be accessable via both a GUI tool
and text files" should be on Software Engineering 101.

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