From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxMXo-0005Y2-1X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41C8BE0320; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18154E0320 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m36so2827877rnd.14 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:06:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qhUEBF7SEjqo2jSEn1LCCzaIIr5J8dfFiofLJTNbg90=; b=Jbr27/IR7WSlHkHEmgz0D2+xb+Z97TtHex4CliyDKpqJUUd1WPbY1p2z0yQip+0DBq WCrgY1PwZZN9VJ4s21B9DHfc2/o1foUczQX5zLlWaFzzFaPN8FOGtA6/AyuuQxtHwkIB vEH9/4KwjugEcAqcyjeaFfpO5wroMiT/oz9UE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VgEOfqfMpZZXRcu8his6dX+8ZawmHeDS04R82Ki53f106hZXgi1g0jU1+j7HQHnW7a weewn9jPvAgBItTOTrdSGwUCVWIrx32NT232oYJecjb/+Rb9h+cicgOYQ3wvEwXvpoWV JpPoLzght5rySR7wVx5xyNJvF9Ig6hLGYrgZs= Received: by 10.90.98.12 with SMTP id v12mr1120886agb.5.1225807565408; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.81.1 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:06:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38af3d670811040606r35ee21f8oad4e6e3021559a6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:06:05 -0200 From: "Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto" Sender: jorgepeixotomorais@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-portage and gentoo-wiki offline? In-Reply-To: <200810191120.14303.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <23623737.23051224278864651.JavaMail.root@mx1.canmail.org> <200810172353.41712.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <48FA55CC.20908@badapple.net> <200810191120.14303.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ffd714d15cdfccfc X-Archives-Salt: fe012fb0-f217-419f-812d-5de443dd5eac X-Archives-Hash: 8fb51e700532c607fe81be167c23e645 >> I generally try to update the docs with recent packages every six >> months or so though I am guilty of letting them sit a bit longer. >> However Gentoo has no official Bind documentation. The official Gentoo >> Virtual Mail how-to offers about half the functionality, explanation, >> and troubleshooting info in my doc. Also the Gentoo virtual mail server >> has remained essentially unchanged in the last six years whereas my doc >> has continued to change and improve. And while we're being honest my >> virtual server build kicks the crap out of the official one in just >> about every way. > > Well that's a very useful contribution and deserves thanks. Let me also give some thanks to this good man. > Therein lies the rub. The OP stated upfront that he is new to Gentoo. The > chances of him being able to find the gems amongst the chaff are reduced. > Better to advise him to stay away until he is in a position to evaluate these > things. If he's in that position right now, then he deserves to know what the > overall quality is. I have had a good experience with gentoo-wiki, and I have seen it praised. This is the first time I've seen a person claiming it is bad quality. > > For the record, it's grossly unfair for others to *expect* you to update the > official docs just because you know the subject. "why not update the Gentoo > docs if you're so darn smart" is likely to produce "stuff off!" responses. > Much better for people to ask nicely, say please, and be cool with the answer Certainly; the internet is known for, unfortunately, stimulating personal conflicts.