From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxM6O-0002fd-9u for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:37:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23667E0388; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.153]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A94E0388 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so1327007ywm.46 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:36:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=LefjgCh/+N3N5C5CwXE6Y0b/fMoheWgLVWLS+WFuB5c=; b=vIom3g9iq0ke1yvaoa6LSPWJ4WruRoE5nXm5NO4Mxk0XFGtQmZe1SePi993VHwfh2z Bsg6IcbBZM3tE1WjyfWcyMZXIjfYzGfD7PqPT+RtLyvJ3nCPoNFymQFPy4oi1QU8tcvB Q5LU3YFCr0Q2qBtXk7xidNE1aDWyo3KyRCTqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fW2Jws3EFwYw/oa+WGV1E30jMKLT3OV/DBBSjd+mRrzdqQIQkakWpJJuu12iCPEqWf zyggNbHHW6BQL8cub7zNkH3RcKmHfD3h3KzesN7hZB5uUyIlUw/zm/hHwCfNfvOOOF4w re0Esyk5OxSdoUk6JXnFY3kOOY/8sM8wHgg3U= Received: by 10.90.80.18 with SMTP id d18mr1085968agb.49.1225805814286; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.81.1 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:36:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38af3d670811040536ga03bbddic628f4f6e0fa3253@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:36:54 -0200 From: "Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto" Sender: jorgepeixotomorais@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] e17 overlay bug In-Reply-To: <200811041054.24532.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811041054.24532.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b0b6197bd3f2140b X-Archives-Salt: b074bdb6-2ebd-4644-8f5c-6e3b759365b4 X-Archives-Hash: 9676e959f935767105b77b9b693daf6e >> I've found that the recent EINA library release for e17 has broken just >> about everything. >> >> Gentoo's overlay system should be simple enough to modify however after >> reading the fine manual I am no closer to understanding the appropriate >> course of action to create eina as a dependency in the overlay (I've bugged >> vapier@gentoo.org to no avail) > > Mike is usually pretty quick with these things. "Mike"?!, What, Vapier's formal name is "Mike"? Back to important stuff, is the overlay in good shape (apart from this specific problem)? For example, is it compatible with Portage's new requirements for Manifest? Also, why are the snapshot ebuilds so horribly outdated? Is it because Vapier is too busy to update them or because he just thinks that e17 is like Mplayer, a project where the developers actually take care to keep the svn code in good shape (only committing working code)? My computer has some bugs*. I am trying Xfce instead of e17 to see if the bugs were e17's fault, but the bugs continue. I wonder if I should go back to e17 1) It is *very* fast and *very* lightweight (even when compared to Xfce) 2) It is vastly configurable and does things Xfce does not (like, for a quick example, remembering per-window configuration, fine tuning window borders, and even making windows borderless) but 1) It is unreleased; users have to compile code from svn. 2) Outputs a truckload of text to .xsession-errors. Does it mean that the code is full of little problems that cause warnings? Xfce, in comparison, only outputs two "assertion failed"s 3) Does not seem to have a Trash Bin or a System tray. I care little about these, though (and I imagine there are plugins to provide them, but I didn't bother to search). Do you think a user who expects a reasonably stable and bug-free environment (say, a user who accepts the latest Ubuntu, instead of demanding the stability of Debian stable) can rely on e17? *Regarding my bugs, they are mostly X-related. When I have time I will dive in xorg.conf documentation. Also, maybe they are related to the fact that some of my X-related packages may have been built with different USE flags (I have disabled the IPv6 USE flag at some point). I will recompile them all, either when Gentoo updates Xorg (which, by the way, is taking a long time) or when Gentoo updates GCC (which is also taking a very long time. I hope that when Debian Stable is released with GCC 4.3, it will motivate Gentoo to declare GCC 4.3.2 stable). -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds