From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BFE138A1C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45BAFE08EC; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268F3E0878 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [142.196.200.180] ([142.196.200.180:33616] helo=navi.localnet) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B0/C8-31229-5423F155; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:37:25 +0000 From: Fernando Rodriguez To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 20:36:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3851468.PmT23tZ2oT@navi> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (Linux/3.19.1; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1655034.0iNOFofX7r@wstn> References: <1478951.WCFfi6fabA@navi> <1655034.0iNOFofX7r@wstn> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Archives-Salt: 7ee2844b-9b99-4a7d-ac39-25f77b63b381 X-Archives-Hash: 4991a4c3e25857f642b264dbc6894b62 On Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:02:02 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2015 17:11:11 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > No, it's stronger than that. Einstein showed us how it works. The > consequence of having a certain concentration of mass /here/ is to distort > space-time just /so/ in the region of /here/. No mechanism is required > because no process is operating. Einstein probably heard something very similar. No, Newton showed us how it works. The idea of matter bending space was considered so ridiculous that it made him a laughing stock. Even later when when experimental data showed that his equations worked so well the general idea was still not accepted and he didn't get a Nobel Prize for it. The math also had to be revised several times to succeed where Newton's failed most obviously, to plot the orbit of Mercury and it still breaks down at the quantum level and inside black holes as Rich mentioned. The point being that science is always a work in progress. -- Fernando Rodriguez