[gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Howdy,

I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
amount of memory.  I noticed it at one point and it was taking about
8GBs.  I killed it and restarted but it seems to keep happening after a
few hours.  After I took a nap, I nudged the monitor back to the on
state only to notice it had eaten so much memory that the system killed
plasmashell and I had to restart it then.  It also made other programs
go to swap since it was full as well.  Glad the system dealt with it
instead of just crashing the whole thing. 

After I restart it, it goes back to normal, a few hundred megabytes, but
slowly starts increasing again.  It gets old having to either logout or
restart the thing. 

Has anyone else noticed this happening on their systems?  If not, I may
rename .kde4 and see if that helps.  Maybe a bad or outdated config. 

Currently on:

kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5-r1

Was on:

kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5

It seems it was a Gentoo upgrade based on the -r1. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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​
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
> amount of memory.


​Probably related to https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=141169 and
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-62117​.

Try seeing if this patch applies cleanly to dev-qt/qtdeclarative and if
merging it resolves the issue:
https://codereview.qt-project.org/gitweb?p=qt/qtdeclarative.git;a=patch;h=768f606cd3cd37c235e85225127201a42d272946
.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> ​
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>     Howdy,
>
>     I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming
>     a huge
>     amount of memory. 
>
>
> ​Probably related to
> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=141169 and
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-62117​.
>
> Try seeing if this patch applies cleanly to dev-qt/qtdeclarative and
> if merging it resolves the issue: 
> https://codereview.qt-project.org/gitweb?p=qt/qtdeclarative.git;a=patch;h=768f606cd3cd37c235e85225127201a42d272946.
>


I followed the directions here:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches

I've done it a couple times before, still have some patches there now,
but wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything.  However, when I tell it
to reemerge dev-qt/qtdeclarative, it doesn't apply the patch.  Usually
it has a line that the patch was applied early on but I never seen it. 
Odds are, I'm missing something somewhere.  I'll look into it more later. 

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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What version of dev-qt/qtdeclarative is being installed?


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> P Levine wrote:
>
> ​
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
>> amount of memory.
>
>
> ​Probably related to https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=141169 and
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-62117​.
>
> Try seeing if this patch applies cleanly to dev-qt/qtdeclarative and if
> merging it resolves the issue:
> https://codereview.qt-project.org/gitweb?p=qt/qtdeclarative.git;a=patch;h=
> 768f606cd3cd37c235e85225127201a42d272946.
>
>
>
> I followed the directions here:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
>
> I've done it a couple times before, still have some patches there now, but
> wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything.  However, when I tell it to
> reemerge dev-qt/qtdeclarative, it doesn't apply the patch.  Usually it has
> a line that the patch was applied early on but I never seen it.  Odds are,
> I'm missing something somewhere.  I'll look into it more later.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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Hi,

It's trying to install dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2.  I went back and sort
of started from the start.  Figured out where I made a boo boo.  Now it
tries to apply the patch but fails to apply properly.  This is the error
I get. 



>>> Emerging (1 of 1) dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2::gentoo
 * qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.9.2.tar.xz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL
size ;-)
...                                                                                   
[ ok ]
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.9.2.tar.xz to
/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/work
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/work
>>> Preparing source in
/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/work/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.9.2
...
 * Applying memory.patch ...
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
src/quick/scenegraph/qsgthreadedrenderloop.cpp.rej
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
src/quick/scenegraph/util/qsgatlastexture.cpp.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
src/quick/scenegraph/util/qsgatlastexture_p.h.rej                                                                  
[ !! ]
 * ERROR: dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2::gentoo failed (prepare phase):
 *   patch -p1  failed with
/etc/portage/patches/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/memory.patch
 *
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line  115:  Called src_prepare
 *             environment, line 3798:  Called qt5-build_src_prepare
 *             environment, line 3432:  Called default
 *      phase-functions.sh, line  808:  Called default_src_prepare
 *      phase-functions.sh, line  873:  Called __eapi6_src_prepare
 *             environment, line  273:  Called eapply_user
 *             environment, line  979:  Called eapply
'/etc/portage/patches/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/memory.patch'
 *             environment, line  949:  Called _eapply_patch
'/etc/portage/patches/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/memory.patch'
 *             environment, line  887:  Called __helpers_die 'patch -p1 
failed with /etc/portage/patches/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/memory.patch'
 *   isolated-functions.sh, line  117:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *              die "$@"
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/dev-qt:qtdeclarative-5.9.2:20171012-043431.log'.
 * For convenience, a symlink to the build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory:
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/work/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.9.2'
 * S:
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2/work/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-5.9.2'

>>> Failed to emerge dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2, Log file:

>>>  '/var/log/portage/dev-qt:qtdeclarative-5.9.2:20171012-043431.log'
 *
 * The following package has failed to build, install, or execute postinst:
 *
 *  (dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2:5/5.9::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge), Log file:
 *   '/var/log/portage/dev-qt:qtdeclarative-5.9.2:20171012-043431.log'
 *
root@fireball / #


Maybe this is due to it being for a different version or something.  I
dunno. 

If needed, I may go back to a older version for a bit but suspect it to
be a bit of a hassle. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



P Levine wrote:
> What version of dev-qt/qtdeclarative is being installed?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     P Levine wrote:
>>     ​
>>     On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:28 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>>
>>         Howdy,
>>
>>         I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is
>>         consuming a huge
>>         amount of memory. 
>>
>>
>>     ​Probably related to
>>     https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=141169
>>     <https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=141169> and
>>     https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-62117
>>     <https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-62117>​.
>>
>>     Try seeing if this patch applies cleanly to dev-qt/qtdeclarative
>>     and if merging it resolves the issue: 
>>     https://codereview.qt-project.org/gitweb?p=qt/qtdeclarative.git;a=patch;h=768f606cd3cd37c235e85225127201a42d272946
>>     <https://codereview.qt-project.org/gitweb?p=qt/qtdeclarative.git;a=patch;h=768f606cd3cd37c235e85225127201a42d272946>.
>>
>
>
>     I followed the directions here:
>
>     https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
>     <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches>
>
>     I've done it a couple times before, still have some patches there
>     now, but wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything.  However, when
>     I tell it to reemerge dev-qt/qtdeclarative, it doesn't apply the
>     patch.  Usually it has a line that the patch was applied early on
>     but I never seen it.  Odds are, I'm missing something somewhere. 
>     I'll look into it more later. 
>
>     Thanks much.
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's trying to install dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2.  I went back and sort
> of started from the start.  Figured out where I made a boo boo.  Now it
> tries to apply the patch but fails to apply properly.
>

​If you don't already​

​have ​dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2 installed then install it without the
patch.  Otherwise, I can't help you.  The patch was just meant to be an
attempt at a backport for a lesser version of​ dev-qt/qtdeclarative.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     It's trying to install dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2.  I went back
>     and sort of started from the start.  Figured out where I made a
>     boo boo.  Now it tries to apply the patch but fails to apply
>     properly. 
>
>  
> ​If you don't already​
>  
> ​have ​dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.9.2 installed then install it without
> the patch.  Otherwise, I can't help you.  The patch was just meant to
> be an attempt at a backport for a lesser version of​ dev-qt/qtdeclarative.
>


Well, that is the version that started the memory hogging.  Since my
last restart, it seems to not be hogging up memory, yet anyway. 

I tried to go back a version but it is causing all sorts of havoc.  I
was having to remove unmask/keyword entries and add mask entries and it
was just going round and round.  May just wait a bit and see if a new
update comes out with a fix. 

Thanks for trying tho.  At least it is possible that this is affecting
enough users that it will get fixed. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
> amount of memory.  I noticed it at one point and it was taking about
> 8GBs.  I killed it and restarted but it seems to keep happening after a
> few hours.  After I took a nap, I nudged the monitor back to the on
> state only to notice it had eaten so much memory that the system killed
> plasmashell and I had to restart it then.  It also made other programs
> go to swap since it was full as well.  Glad the system dealt with it
> instead of just crashing the whole thing. 
>
> After I restart it, it goes back to normal, a few hundred megabytes, but
> slowly starts increasing again.  It gets old having to either logout or
> restart the thing. 
>
> Has anyone else noticed this happening on their systems?  If not, I may
> rename .kde4 and see if that helps.  Maybe a bad or outdated config. 
>
> Currently on:
>
> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5-r1
>
> Was on:
>
> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5
>
> It seems it was a Gentoo upgrade based on the -r1. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


Just a FYI for anyone else having this issue.  I just upgraded and it is
still doing the same thing.  I'd think if it was a bug in the package
that it would be fixed. 

I think I'm going to try renaming .kde4 and see if a fresh start helps
with this problem. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I'm going to try renaming .kde4 and see if a fresh start helps
> with this problem.
>

​AFAIK, plasma5 uses ~/.local and ~/​.config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>     I think I'm going to try renaming .kde4 and see if a fresh start helps
>     with this problem. 
>
>
> ​AFAIK, plasma5 uses ~/.local and ~/​.config.
>


I wish I had read this earlier.  I keep forgetting that.  I've read it
before but I never seem to recall it when I really really need it.  If I
ever remember to do just those two files, I'll remember it most likely. 
Big IF there.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 17 October 2017 04:03:14 BST Dale wrote:
> P Levine wrote:
> > ​AFAIK, plasma5 uses ~/.local and ~/​.config.
> 
> I wish I had read this earlier.  I keep forgetting that.  I've read it
> before but I never seem to recall it when I really really need it.  If I
> ever remember to do just those two files, I'll remember it most likely. 
> Big IF there.

Having struggled monumentally with KMail over the last several months, I got 
fed up enough with setting up a new user from scratch that I now have a 
fresh user set up and ready to go. It has the few things I want to keep in 
my own account, and an empty directory structure for KMail. All I have to do 
is (re)move the old account, copy the ready account into place and go.

That would be harder if I didn't have a ~/common partition containing 
everything I'd need if I installed another distro but without the version-
specific KDE stuff. It's a hangover from the days when I hadn't settled on a 
single distro, but it's proved its worth this year.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 October 2017 04:03:14 BST Dale wrote:
>> P Levine wrote:
>>> ​AFAIK, plasma5 uses ~/.local and ~/​.config.
>> I wish I had read this earlier.  I keep forgetting that.  I've read it
>> before but I never seem to recall it when I really really need it.  If I
>> ever remember to do just those two files, I'll remember it most likely. 
>> Big IF there.
> Having struggled monumentally with KMail over the last several months, I got 
> fed up enough with setting up a new user from scratch that I now have a 
> fresh user set up and ready to go. It has the few things I want to keep in 
> my own account, and an empty directory structure for KMail. All I have to do 
> is (re)move the old account, copy the ready account into place and go.
>
> That would be harder if I didn't have a ~/common partition containing 
> everything I'd need if I installed another distro but without the version-
> specific KDE stuff. It's a hangover from the days when I hadn't settled on a 
> single distro, but it's proved its worth this year.
>


I switched from Kmail ages ago.  I think it was because clicking links
was becoming a nightmare.  It's been so long, can't be sure.  I switched
to Seamonkey which means I shouldn't have to move emails unless I switch
email programs.  Of course, Seamonkey gets on my nerves at times too and
I figure at some point, I'm going to blast it with a cannon or something
right out the door. 

For some reason, the mv command did something weird.  For a bit there, I
thought I'd lost my emails.  However, I found them and copied them back
into the right place. 

I just wish I had either remembered or seen Levine's comment before I
did all that.  That could have saved me a lot of trouble.  Most likely
just renaming those two files would be a good test. 

BTW, I've already had to restart the plasma thing.  It was up to almost
20%.  Since I don't shutdown my puter, I kill it before I lay down for a
nap.  Restart it when I get up.  Hoping for a can of Raid soon.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Philip Webb]

171016 Dale wrote:
>> I did a upgrade recently
> and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge amount of memory.
> I noticed it at one point and it was taking about  8 GB .

FYI I don't see this :

  root:527 ~> eix plasma-work
    [I] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace
    Available versions: (5) 5.10.5-r1^t ~5.11.0^t
    Installed versions: 5.10.5-r1(5)^t([2017-09-19 22:08:06]) (handbook -appstream -calendar -debug -geolocation -gps -prison -qalculate -semantic-desktop -test)

  root:528 ~> free
           total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
    Mem:    7906        1180        5271         139        1454        6041
    Swap:   8191           0        8191

  root:529 ~> uptime
    21:28:07 up 1 day, 20:43, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.02

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> 171016 Dale wrote:
>>> I did a upgrade recently
>> and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge amount of memory.
>> I noticed it at one point and it was taking about  8 GB .
> FYI I don't see this :
>
>   root:527 ~> eix plasma-work
>     [I] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace
>     Available versions: (5) 5.10.5-r1^t ~5.11.0^t
>     Installed versions: 5.10.5-r1(5)^t([2017-09-19 22:08:06]) (handbook -appstream -calendar -debug -geolocation -gps -prison -qalculate -semantic-desktop -test)
>
>   root:528 ~> free
>            total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
>     Mem:    7906        1180        5271         139        1454        6041
>     Swap:   8191           0        8191
>
>   root:529 ~> uptime
>     21:28:07 up 1 day, 20:43, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.02
>

We have slightly different USE flags.  Here's mine:

[ebuild   R   ~] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.11.0:5::gentoo 
USE="calendar handbook -appstream -debug -geolocation -gps -prison
-qalculate -semantic-desktop -systemd {-test}" 0 KiB

I notice systemd is missing in yours, not on or off just not there at
all.  I'm not sure exactly what calendar does but I do use the one in
the little panel thingy.  Not sure if it is the same one or not. 

This doesn't seem to affect everyone but it seems to affect some of us. 
It seems you are lucky and I'm hoping after going to a new .kde4 that
I'll have the same luck.  I've had times before where this helped.  Just
something in a config somewhere that causes problems.  Besides, I run a
somewhat weird setup anyway.  I'm old, that's my excuse and I'm sticking
with it.  LOL 

Interesting info.  Makes one wonder. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
>> amount of memory.  I noticed it at one point and it was taking about
>> 8GBs.  I killed it and restarted but it seems to keep happening after a
>> few hours.  After I took a nap, I nudged the monitor back to the on
>> state only to notice it had eaten so much memory that the system killed
>> plasmashell and I had to restart it then.  It also made other programs
>> go to swap since it was full as well.  Glad the system dealt with it
>> instead of just crashing the whole thing. 
>>
>> After I restart it, it goes back to normal, a few hundred megabytes, but
>> slowly starts increasing again.  It gets old having to either logout or
>> restart the thing. 
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this happening on their systems?  If not, I may
>> rename .kde4 and see if that helps.  Maybe a bad or outdated config. 
>>
>> Currently on:
>>
>> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5-r1
>>
>> Was on:
>>
>> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5
>>
>> It seems it was a Gentoo upgrade based on the -r1. 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
>
> Just a FYI for anyone else having this issue.  I just upgraded and it is
> still doing the same thing.  I'd think if it was a bug in the package
> that it would be fixed. 
>
> I think I'm going to try renaming .kde4 and see if a fresh start helps
> with this problem. 
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


Well, giving it a fresh start may have made it worse.  It used to go a
day or so and now, I have to restart the thing every few hours.  When I
restart it uses about 2% of memory, maybe a little less.  After just a
few hours, it is already up to 7% and headed to 8%.  Thing is, it seems
to grow faster as it goes.  Currently on:

plasma-workspace-5.11.0

If anyone runs up on this in a search, I'm not aware of a solution, yet. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I did a upgrade recently and after that, plasmashell is consuming a huge
> amount of memory.  I noticed it at one point and it was taking about
> 8GBs.  I killed it and restarted but it seems to keep happening after a
> few hours.  After I took a nap, I nudged the monitor back to the on
> state only to notice it had eaten so much memory that the system killed
> plasmashell and I had to restart it then.  It also made other programs
> go to swap since it was full as well.  Glad the system dealt with it
> instead of just crashing the whole thing. 
>
> After I restart it, it goes back to normal, a few hundred megabytes, but
> slowly starts increasing again.  It gets old having to either logout or
> restart the thing. 
>
> Has anyone else noticed this happening on their systems?  If not, I may
> rename .kde4 and see if that helps.  Maybe a bad or outdated config. 
>
> Currently on:
>
> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5-r1
>
> Was on:
>
> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.10.5
>
> It seems it was a Gentoo upgrade based on the -r1. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


Just a little update, a recent update seems to have corrected this
issue.  The update to 5.11.2 doesn't seem to have the same memory hog
issue.  If anyone else is having this issue, upgrade to that version and
hopefully it will work like it should.

Thanks to all for their replies.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Just a little update, a recent update seems to have corrected this
> issue.  The update to 5.11.2 doesn't seem to have the same memory hog
> issue.  If anyone else is having this issue, upgrade to that version and
> hopefully it will work like it should.
>
> Thanks to all for their replies.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>

Well, I spoke to soon.  It worked OK for a good while then it started
creeping up again.  After another round of google searches, startpage
actually, I found where someone posted that having a slideshow causes
this.  I switched from slideshow to something else and sure enough, it
hasn't hogged up memory, yet anyway. 

So, disable slideshow until this gets fixed and at least you don't have
to worry about it hogging up every last bit of memory. 

Still, that thing does use quite a bit of ram.  It's not in the area of
Firefox or anything but it uses a good bit.  Actually, in top it is
usually listed right below Firefox and Seamonkey.  In the past tho, it
just used the same stable amount.  ;-) 

Now let us pray that there is a fix soon enough.  I miss my slideshow.  :(

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now let us pray that there is a fix soon enough.  I miss my slideshow.  :(
>

You could track it here: ​https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879​

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Now let us pray that there is a fix soon enough.  I miss my
>     slideshow.  :(
>
>
> You could track it here: ​https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879​
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879%E2%80%8B>


That link didn't work but I found it by the number.  It is a bit dated
so I found this new one:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385970 

For some reason, that didn't show up on my searches, usually does but
not this time.  Odd.  Anyway, I'll post my info there to just so the
other guy doesn't feel lonely.  ;-)

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[R0b0t1]

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> P Levine wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now let us pray that there is a fix soon enough.  I miss my slideshow.  :(
>
>
> You could track it here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879
>
>
>
> That link didn't work but I found it by the number.  It is a bit dated so I
> found this new one:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385970
>
> For some reason, that didn't show up on my searches, usually does but not
> this time.  Odd.  Anyway, I'll post my info there to just so the other guy
> doesn't feel lonely.  ;-)
>

Moral support is extremely important on bug trackers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> P Levine wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Now let us pray that there is a fix soon enough.  I miss my slideshow.  :(
>>
>> You could track it here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879
>>
>>
>>
>> That link didn't work but I found it by the number.  It is a bit dated so I
>> found this new one:
>>
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385970
>>
>> For some reason, that didn't show up on my searches, usually does but not
>> this time.  Odd.  Anyway, I'll post my info there to just so the other guy
>> doesn't feel lonely.  ;-)
>>
> Moral support is extremely important on bug trackers.
>
>


Plus it helps the devs know it affects more than one person.  Sometimes,
the added info can narrow down a cause, even down to a specific change. 
Plus, if they can provide a patch that I can use here, I could even test
it.  I've already got a couple patches here that come in handy. 

Hopefully this will get a fix soon.  Having the world map thingy isn't
all bad.  I can see daylight and dark coming.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[P Levine]

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> After another round of google searches, startpage
> actually, I found where someone posted that having a slideshow causes
> this.  I switched from slideshow to something else and sure enough, it
> hasn't hogged up memory, yet anyway.
>
> So, disable slideshow until this gets fixed and at least you don't have
> to worry about it hogging up every last bit of memory.


​I vaguely

​remember reading that the problem might be related to plasmashell ​loading
all available slideshow wallpapers into memory.   If you really want
slideshow, maybe as a  possible workaround you can see if limiting the
number of wallpapers used with slideshow reduces memory consumption.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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P Levine wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>     After another round of google searches, startpage
>     actually, I found where someone posted that having a slideshow causes
>     this.  I switched from slideshow to something else and sure enough, it
>     hasn't hogged up memory, yet anyway. 
>
>     So, disable slideshow until this gets fixed and at least you don't
>     have
>     to worry about it hogging up every last bit of memory. 
>
>  
> ​I vaguely
>  
> ​remember reading that the problem might be related to plasmashell
> ​loading all available slideshow wallpapers into memory.   If you
> really want slideshow, maybe as a  possible workaround you can see if
> limiting the number of wallpapers used with slideshow reduces memory
> consumption.
>

That would be possible I guess.  Thing is, I have a lot of wallpapers,
some hi-res large ones that came from NASA at that.  If it tried to load
them all, I'd had to have a lot more memory.  I think I have over 20GBs
worth of them.  Currently I have 16GBs of memory.  I'm going to upgrade
one of these days tho.  My mobo can handle 32GBs but even then, I
wouldn't want plasmashell to take up that much memory. 

I can test this theory tho.  I can pick a small directory and let it
cycle through them.  If it is loading them like you read, then it
shouldn't use more than the space the wallpaper files take up.  If it is
something else, then it should get real hoggy again.  Spellchecker
doesn't like my new word hoggy.  lol 

I'm going to test that and see what happens.  I'll post the results,
just in case someone runs up on this thread, and on the bug report as well.

Thanks for the info.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Plasmashell consuming huge amounts of memory.

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> P Levine wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>>wrote:
>>
>>     After another round of google searches, startpage
>>     actually, I found where someone posted that having a slideshow causes
>>     this.  I switched from slideshow to something else and sure
>>     enough, it
>>     hasn't hogged up memory, yet anyway. 
>>
>>     So, disable slideshow until this gets fixed and at least you
>>     don't have
>>     to worry about it hogging up every last bit of memory. 
>>
>>  
>> ​I vaguely
>>  
>> ​remember reading that the problem might be related to plasmashell
>> ​loading all available slideshow wallpapers into memory.   If you
>> really want slideshow, maybe as a  possible workaround you can see if
>> limiting the number of wallpapers used with slideshow reduces memory
>> consumption.
>>
>
> That would be possible I guess.  Thing is, I have a lot of wallpapers,
> some hi-res large ones that came from NASA at that.  If it tried to
> load them all, I'd had to have a lot more memory.  I think I have over
> 20GBs worth of them.  Currently I have 16GBs of memory.  I'm going to
> upgrade one of these days tho.  My mobo can handle 32GBs but even
> then, I wouldn't want plasmashell to take up that much memory. 
>
> I can test this theory tho.  I can pick a small directory and let it
> cycle through them.  If it is loading them like you read, then it
> shouldn't use more than the space the wallpaper files take up.  If it
> is something else, then it should get real hoggy again.  Spellchecker
> doesn't like my new word hoggy.  lol 
>
> I'm going to test that and see what happens.  I'll post the results,
> just in case someone runs up on this thread, and on the bug report as
> well.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 


Well, that didn't take long.  I found a directory that was about 1.6GBs
of wallpapers.  It should not use more than a little over 2GBs of memory
even if it loads all the files in memory.  Well, it took up right at
3GBs in a short period of time.  That would put it using well over what
it normally uses plus the directory.  Usually, it uses about 300MBs at
start up.  Add to that the 1.6GBs and you end up with about 2GBs or so. 
Since it was quickly approaching 3GBs, it was well past that. 

I'm not sure what it is doing but even if it is loading the wallpapers
up, it is doing something else in addition to that. 

I was hoping we were on to something.  Oh well.  It was worth a try.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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