From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF4FF138334 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 23:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBA5CE088C; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 23:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x233.google.com (mail-qt0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67FB4E0876 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 23:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x233.google.com with SMTP id t5-v6so6833189qtn.3 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:25:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VnHoyaV9L0ekYBmOxLYHAJ23iFC0PDjM1c7SvMBYLRA=; b=CMXyW2HQgl3CyEM1DznyIshtgXCrHVW6NRhYm58YydxvpRfqLLpO9d+OFFNNGjz+gR Rl/BYhLP2usIiKn+Fvgfv1jYrLjF+IObTGRENgOP9Xq1AS27ToMzpIhb778vi08ddpxY hbVnOS/Va9M1aUNX6WbBM7vy0++fb24yGvg/vUm9vMmpJSOFBVzgF2zBFE10sWcEyOSA ct4mP89rqhFMJiOCGWTcQozU3YIsAZYY9hgC2OtWao3mUp7mdvRGqhDqWSk1qK646PNN vnHwUdpK/v+7+Xxc5vasgp1GOqW3JzeMMEUPlcmetllKC/mxJ18j8xpbNa4IYNETwooP 7iHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VnHoyaV9L0ekYBmOxLYHAJ23iFC0PDjM1c7SvMBYLRA=; b=hw1uLKYPSqNzcOD30mJEB3p+CuUuT9q+yZvg03tHiqkFRq+O7oTd7/aNwlQXBjp3Mq blskQ0EAD/k9piTnG84uQ4O9uKpbk+zxhMilZBzW92QFQc+aYIptNYdYR+C9SAFQD6Hp NCSXcrpS1mEVLuiKrW/FV/8SeM1NpvigQeeg5C6BmzXXIn2z7dYpMqqnhl3Aa7x6z66u b7i5i3RFTKyMCPnReNfn2Mq0KPgaC3qrBsGPPiyyJI6IROadrnWEBQmeBlCBXwZdDKEr l/ZN1pSjBaOwPvdSG3J3OTimAHirozysQJx4q1tyI1D+dAw+KrDG02jjYWTeOglhL2am vi8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFZgP/KaF4YVY8ILnhs9IqELSfNwJdG9d2NfPZ7jD2+5BxPuiKN qL5IotQeSEVdtz+HFDtARzNDoONf X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPwDHtTEuWxb1DSawbRBbicbjFMTs5Rw8bAdIK+PmQYvyIrQBVmRBLzAI9LC2e+tKRzboYrx8g== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:44d4:: with SMTP id b20-v6mr32152322qto.176.1534461953142; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:47:28f:7102:4c30:1316:62c8:ccd7? ([2602:47:28f:7102:4c30:1316:62c8:ccd7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z14-v6sm324545qti.83.2018.08.16.16.25.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Udvare Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.0 \(3445.100.24\)) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Replacement for gcruft: gcrud Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:25:51 -0400 References: <32db6b65-f082-9189-8a4d-047005b980f9@gmail.com> <356bd469-39a4-607f-ff68-8f1d18c52fb3@verizon.net> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <356bd469-39a4-607f-ff68-8f1d18c52fb3@verizon.net> Message-Id: <36793E18-ADA8-449F-93C0-180A0D3AABAA@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.100.24) X-Archives-Salt: 8cffb964-56d6-435d-a411-43b8f80821c2 X-Archives-Hash: 0003bb496dca1974d8cb7f146df4ae49 > On 2018-08-16, at 14:22, james wrote: >=20 > Yes, but, it'll be while for me. Offer and automated clean up option, > and I have dozens of systems to test..... I'll figure out the kind of tests I want to run sometime soon. >=20 >=20 > GLEP 64 was on the path to systematically solve what you you are doing > after the fact:: >=20 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GLEP:64 >=20 > More refs for your convenience >=20 > http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ >=20 > http://gittup.org/tup/ > ("It will automatically clean-up old files.") Thanks for pointing these out. It is really tempting to support macOS like tup does, although SIP and = the restored snapshot on boot kind of makes it unnecessary. And also the = idea of using a newly created FS to see changes is interesting. A new GLEP to systematically delete extraneous files could be to restore = a non-user generated snapshot on boot just like iOS/macOS, but the = problem is that we don't always use the same filesystem or mount = configurations. Another way would be to use xattr but again the issue is = compatibility. --=20 Andrew=