From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R1xZT-0006YN-C5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:40:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B56421C14C; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B7721C040 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.134] (helo=smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R1xYP-0002kx-KM for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:39:21 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R1xYH-0006Hm-Hw for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:39:13 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0C9CF3 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:40:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ZUq9XY37ZpF for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFB056C4 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:40:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:39:11 +0200 Message-ID: <3629668.vnfKyljdzK@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R1xYH-0006Hm-Hw X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9b5b0b5ec2c1cf3af7b9f83c212d4f50 On Thursday, September 08, 2011 03:01:10 PM Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wro= te: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote= : > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk wrote: > >> On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > >>> But the freedom is still there. The freedom to either keep your > >>> system > >>> as it is (don't upgrade) > >>=20 > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> You do realise that this is quite valid for Windows (and all other= > >> OS's > >> in existence)? At least so far... > >=20 > > Don't get *me* started. My _day job_ is C++/MFC on Windows. _Please= _ > > upgrade, you'll make my life much easier. > >=20 > > Outdated operating systems make baby coder cry. >=20 > I already mentioned that you update security flaws. Update the security flaws is all nice and well, but won't hold up for v= ery=20 long. Security updates for older versions will stop within a short period. An= d not=20 sufficient information will be available to keep patching the software=20= individually. > And again, that's only if you resist the change. This sounds like "We are borg, resistance is futile...." :) -- Joost