From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:35:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3613897.q2tncFpUrH@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EBCA77.8030603@binarywings.net>
Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013, 08:27:51 schrieb Florian Philipp:
> Am 08.01.2013 00:20, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:35 +0100
> >
> > Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
> >> Hi list!
> >>
> >> I have a use case where I am seriously concerned about bit rot [1]
> >> and I thought it might be a good idea to start looking for it in my
> >> own private stuff, too.
>
> [...]
>
> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Florian Philipp
> >
> > You are using a very peculiar definition of bitrot.
> >
> > "bits" do not "rot", they are not apples in a barrel. Bitrot usually
> > refers to code that goes unmaintained and no longer works in the system
> > it was installed. What definition are you using?
>
> That's why I referred to wikipedia, not the jargon file ;-)
>
> The definition that I thought about was decay of storage media,
> especially hard disks. I'm not aware of another commonly used name for
> that effect. Disk rot seems to apply only to optical media.
>
> > If you mean crummy code that goes unmaintained, then keep systems up to
> > date and report bugs.
> >
> > If you mean disk file corruption, then doing it file by file is a
> > colossal waste of time IMNSHO. You likely have >1,000,000 files. Are
> > you really going to md5sum each one daily? Really?
>
> Well, not daily but often enough that I likely still have a valid copy
> as a backup.
and who guarantees that the backup is the correct file?
btw, the solution is zfs and weekly scrub runs.
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-07 20:11 [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:07 ` Paul Hartman
2013-01-07 22:05 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:33 ` Michael Mol
2013-01-07 22:10 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 23:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 7:27 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 7:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 16:16 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 16:42 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 17:41 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-08 19:02 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-09 2:55 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-08 19:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 20:30 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 21:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 22:15 ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 23:37 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 2:47 ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 8:31 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 14:48 ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 15:36 ` Holger Hoffstaette
2013-01-09 16:32 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-09 16:42 ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 20:52 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 20:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 15:29 ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 15:42 ` Michael Mol
2013-01-08 16:28 ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 17:35 ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2013-01-08 19:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 20:57 ` Joshua Murphy
2013-01-08 21:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 19:11 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-01-09 4:40 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09 15:17 ` walt
2013-01-09 18:57 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09 0:12 ` [gentoo-user] " Randy Barlow
2013-01-07 23:31 ` William Kenworthy
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