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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:35:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3613897.q2tncFpUrH@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EBCA77.8030603@binarywings.net>

Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013, 08:27:51 schrieb Florian Philipp:
> Am 08.01.2013 00:20, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:11:35 +0100
> > 
> > Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net> wrote:
> >> Hi list!
> >> 
> >> I have a use case where I am seriously concerned about bit rot [1]
> >> and I thought it might be a good idea to start looking for it in my
> >> own private stuff, too.
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Florian Philipp
> > 
> > You are using a very peculiar definition of bitrot.
> > 
> > "bits" do not "rot", they are not apples in a barrel. Bitrot usually
> > refers to code that goes unmaintained and no longer works in the system
> > it was installed. What definition are you using?
> 
> That's why I referred to wikipedia, not the jargon file ;-)
> 
> The definition that I thought about was decay of storage media,
> especially hard disks. I'm not aware of another commonly used name for
> that effect. Disk rot seems to apply only to optical media.
> 
> > If you mean crummy code that goes unmaintained, then keep systems up to
> > date and report bugs.
> > 
> > If you mean disk file corruption, then doing it file by file is a
> > colossal waste of time IMNSHO. You likely have >1,000,000 files. Are
> > you really going to md5sum each one daily? Really?
> 
> Well, not daily but often enough that I likely still have a valid copy
> as a backup.

and who guarantees that the backup is the correct file?

btw, the solution is zfs and weekly scrub runs.

-- 
#163933


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-07 20:11 [gentoo-user] OT: Fighting bit rot Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:07 ` Paul Hartman
2013-01-07 22:05   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 21:33 ` Michael Mol
2013-01-07 22:10   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-07 23:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08  7:27   ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08  7:55     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 16:16       ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 16:42         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 17:41         ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-08 19:02           ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-09  2:55             ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-08 19:53           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 20:30             ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 21:45             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 22:15               ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 23:37                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09  2:47                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09  8:31                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 14:48                       ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 15:36                         ` Holger Hoffstaette
2013-01-09 16:32                           ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-09 16:42                           ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-09 20:52                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-09 20:53                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 15:29     ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-08 15:42       ` Michael Mol
2013-01-08 16:28         ` Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 17:35     ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2013-01-08 19:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Florian Philipp
2013-01-08 20:57         ` Joshua Murphy
2013-01-08 21:49         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 19:11       ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-01-09  4:40         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09 15:17           ` walt
2013-01-09 18:57             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-09  0:12     ` [gentoo-user] " Randy Barlow
2013-01-07 23:31 ` William Kenworthy

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