[gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

would anybody please to kind to explain the x11-drivers/ati-driver
versioning system to me? I'm waiting for a version that supports
Xorg-7.x .

From the bug report
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290739
it looks like version 8.721 supports Xorg-7.x
and would thus be more recent than say 10.2

What's the difference between the 8.x and the 10.x
series?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[ich bins]

Am 25.03.2010 10:45, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> Hi,
>
> would anybody please to kind to explain the x11-drivers/ati-driver
> versioning system to me? I'm waiting for a version that supports
> Xorg-7.x .
>
> >From the bug report
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290739
> it looks like version 8.721 supports Xorg-7.x
> and would thus be more recent than say 10.2
>
> What's the difference between the 8.x and the 10.x
> series?
>
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
>
>   

 8.721 represents the ubuntu prebeta 10.4 ati-driver. 

xorg 7.X support will be in ati-driver-10.4 (or the beta 8.721)

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 25 Mar, ich bins wrote:
> Am 25.03.2010 10:45, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
>> Hi,
>>
>> would anybody please to kind to explain the x11-drivers/ati-driver
>> versioning system to me? I'm waiting for a version that supports
>> Xorg-7.x .
>>
>> >From the bug report
>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290739
>> it looks like version 8.721 supports Xorg-7.x
>> and would thus be more recent than say 10.2
>>
>> What's the difference between the 8.x and the 10.x
>> series?
>>
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut.
>>
>>   
> 
>  8.721 represents the ubuntu prebeta 10.4 ati-driver. 
> 
> xorg 7.X support will be in ati-driver-10.4 (or the beta 8.721)
> 

Many thanks, do you have an estimate when 10.4 appears in the tree?
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Mick]

On 25 March 2010 11:50, Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> On 25 Mar, ich bins wrote:
>> Am 25.03.2010 10:45, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> would anybody please to kind to explain the x11-drivers/ati-driver
>>> versioning system to me? I'm waiting for a version that supports
>>> Xorg-7.x .
>>>
>>> >From the bug report
>>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290739
>>> it looks like version 8.721 supports Xorg-7.x
>>> and would thus be more recent than say 10.2
>>>
>>> What's the difference between the 8.x and the 10.x
>>> series?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for a hint,
>>> Helmut.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  8.721 represents the ubuntu prebeta 10.4 ati-driver.
>>
>> xorg 7.X support will be in ati-driver-10.4 (or the beta 8.721)
>>
>
> Many thanks, do you have an estimate when 10.4 appears in the tree?
> Helmut.

I can't answer that (as far as I know the devs will only say that it
will appear when it is ready) but I got myself into a pickle with
trying to switch from radeon to fglrx driver, running xorg-server
1.7.6.  It kept going around in circles with blockers and after
subsequent masking and unmasking I couldn't get it to emerge, so I
went back to the radeon driver.  Mind you I did not rebuilt the kernel
at the time and that may be why I was getting 'you can't have these
packages installed at the same time' type of message.

I only wanted to try fglrx, because someone on the Ubuntu forums said
that it stopped their laptop fan from running all the time (mine
starts when the temperature reaches 50C or so and thereafter runs
continuously).
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Donnerstag 25 März 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> would anybody please to kind to explain the x11-drivers/ati-driver
> versioning system to me? I'm waiting for a version that supports
> Xorg-7.x .
> 
> From the bug report
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290739
> it looks like version 8.721 supports Xorg-7.x
> and would thus be more recent than say 10.2
> 
> What's the difference between the 8.x and the 10.x
> series?
> 
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.

10 is the year
2 is the month the driver is released in
8.721 is an internal version. 

8.721 or some later version, 8.722, 7.23, 730.. will probably become 10.4

The latest officially released version is 10.3.

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> On 25 March 2010 11:50, Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
> wrote:

> > Many thanks, do you have an estimate when 10.4 appears in the tree?
> > Helmut.
> 
> I can't answer that (as far as I know the devs will only say that it
> will appear when it is ready) but I got myself into a pickle with
> trying to switch from radeon to fglrx driver, running xorg-server
> 1.7.6.  

I think you have to wait for ati-drivers-10.4 to work with xorg-1.7.

> It kept going around in circles with blockers and after
> subsequent masking and unmasking I couldn't get it to emerge, so I
> went back to the radeon driver.  Mind you I did not rebuilt the kernel
> at the time and that may be why I was getting 'you can't have these
> packages installed at the same time' type of message.

With the radeon driver, I only got a blank screen, so I am using ati-
drivers. From kernel 2.6.31 on, they are sort of working fine, with GLX 
and all that. Here is what I had to mask to keep the older x.org 1.6:

>=x11-apps/xinput-1.5.0
>=x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7
>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7
>=x11-libs/libX11-1.3.2
>=x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.0
>=x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1
>=x11-libs/libXi-1.3
>=x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1
>=x11-libs/libXtst-1.1.0
>=x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.1.1
>=x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0
>=x11-proto/bigreqsproto-1.1.0
>=x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1
>=x11-proto/inputproto-2.0
>=x11-proto/recordproto-1.14
>=x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0
>=x11-proto/xcmiscproto-1.2.0
>=x11-proto/xextproto-7.1.1
>=x11-proto/xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0
>=x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1
>=x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.1.0
>=x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3
>=x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2
>=media-libs/mesa-7.6


> I only wanted to try fglrx, because someone on the Ubuntu forums said
> that it stopped their laptop fan from running all the time (mine
> starts when the temperature reaches 50C or so and thereafter runs
> continuously).

That's what I heard, too. Still, I have high CPU loads for the X process 
when running KDE4 with my Radeon 4200 GPU.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 26 Mar, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Mick writes:
> 
>> On 25 March 2010 11:50, Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
>> wrote:
> 
>> > Many thanks, do you have an estimate when 10.4 appears in the tree?
>> > Helmut.
>> 
>> I can't answer that (as far as I know the devs will only say that it
>> will appear when it is ready) but I got myself into a pickle with
>> trying to switch from radeon to fglrx driver, running xorg-server
>> 1.7.6.  
> 
> I think you have to wait for ati-drivers-10.4 to work with xorg-1.7.
> 

I just want to report back, that xorg-server-1.7.6 (+ friends) is running
just fine with  x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.721 .
The only minor problem was that one has to re-emerge all other installed
x11-drivers/* packages.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI-drivers versioning system - I'm confused

[Alex Schuster]

Helmut Jarausch writes:

> On 26 Mar, Alex Schuster wrote:

> > I think you have to wait for ati-drivers-10.4 to work with xorg-1.7.
> 
> I just want to report back, that xorg-server-1.7.6 (+ friends) is
> running just fine with  x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.721 .
> The only minor problem was that one has to re-emerge all other
> installed x11-drivers/* packages.

Thanks! I will upgrade my X then when I have a little spare time.

	Wonko