[gentoo-user] mysql USE flag error

[gentoo-user] mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

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I am not sure I understand this message about the mysql USE flag:
=====================================================
# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to 
satisfy ">=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql)
(dependency required by "app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/krfb-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "world" [argument])

# euse -i mysql
global use flags (searching: mysql)
************************************************************
[-    ] mysql - Adds mySQL Database support

local use flags (searching: mysql)
************************************************************
[-    ] mysql (app-admin/ulogd):
Build MYSQL output plugin to save packets in a mysql database.

[-    ] mysql (net-misc/mediatomb):
Use dev-db/mysql as backend rather than SQLite3. If this USE flag is disabled, 
dev-db/sqlite is used in its stead.

$ eix -l x11-libs/qt-sql
[snip...]
     Installed versions:  4.5.2(4)(12:30:57 10/10/09)(iconv qt3support 
sqlite -debug -firebird -mysql -odbc -pch -postgres)
=====================================================

Of the packages mentioned as dependencies requiring mysql I only have 
installed kde-base/krfb, but not the version shown above 
kde-base/krfb-4.3.1 - see below:
=====================================================
# emerge -Cpv kde-base/krfb

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 kde-base/krfb
    selected: 3.5.10 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
=====================================================

Can you please explain why this mysql USE flag message shows up?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql USE flag error

[Renat Golubchyk]

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:56:57 +0100
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure I understand this message about the mysql USE flag:
> =====================================================
> # emerge -upDv world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to 
> satisfy ">=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql)
> (dependency required by "app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "kde-base/krfb-4.3.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "world" [argument])

kde-base/krfb-4.3.1 requires kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 which requires
app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 which requires
>=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]

Actually app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 requires
>=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql?,sqlite?] which means "mysql or sqlite,
default to mysql".


Cheers,
Renat

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/19 Renat Golubchyk <ragermany@gmx.net>:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:56:57 +0100
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am not sure I understand this message about the mysql USE flag:
>> =====================================================
>> # emerge -upDv world
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to
>> satisfy ">=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]".
>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your
>> request:
>> - x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql)
>> (dependency required by "app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "kde-base/krfb-4.3.1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "world" [argument])
>
> kde-base/krfb-4.3.1 requires kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 which requires
> app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 which requires
>>=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]
>
> Actually app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 requires
>>=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql?,sqlite?] which means "mysql or sqlite,
> default to mysql".

Thanks Renat, I am still struggling to understand why mysql is being
dragged in.  It seems that x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 is already installed
with the sqlite flag:
=================================
 Installed versions:  4.5.2(4)(12:30:57 10/10/09)(iconv qt3support
sqlite -debug -firebird -mysql -odbc -pch -postgres)
=================================

I've added -mysql in /etc/portage/package.use for x11-libs/qt-sql but
it makes no difference.  Then I added mysql and all this mess comes
up:
=================================
# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

x11-libs/qt-sql:4

  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2', 'merge') pulled in by
    >=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1', 'merge')

  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    >=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1:4[qt3support] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'kde-base/kmix-4.3.1', 'merge')
    >=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1:4[qt3support] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'kde-base/kontactinterfaces-4.3.1', 'merge')
    >=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.1:4[qt3support] required by ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/
kimagemapeditor-4.3.1', 'merge')
    (and 117 more)

sys-auth/pambase:0

  ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r2', 'merge')

  ('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20081028 required by ('installed', '/',
'net-misc/openssh-5.2_p1-r3', 'nomerge')
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20080219.1 required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-apps/shadow-4.1.2.2', 'nomerge')
    (and 1 more)


It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
">=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5[dbus,sql,svg,webkit,X]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-python/PyQt4-4.5.4-r4 (Change USE: +sql +webkit)
(dependency required by "kde-base/pykde4-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "world" [argument])
=================================

It seems to me that it may be easier to just unmerge krfb and forget
about it, but there must be a more elegant solution to this?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

[gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Remy Blank]

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Mick wrote:
> I've added -mysql in /etc/portage/package.use for x11-libs/qt-sql but
> it makes no difference.

You should add -mysql for the package app-office/akonadi-server instead.

-- Remy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/19 Remy Blank <remy.blank@pobox.com>:
> Mick wrote:
>> I've added -mysql in /etc/portage/package.use for x11-libs/qt-sql but
>> it makes no difference.
>
> You should add -mysql for the package app-office/akonadi-server instead.

This looks more promising, thanks.  Still pam seems to be getting
confused (well pambase may not be, but I am because all sort of other
packages are now being dragged in - please see below).  Am I losing my
touch with portage-foo or is my otherwise stable system in need of
some fix?

============================
# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sys-auth/pambase:0

  ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r2', 'merge')

  ('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20081028 required by ('installed', '/',
'net-misc/openssh-5.2_p1-r3', 'nomerge')
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20080219.1 required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-apps/shadow-4.1.2.2', 'nomerge')
    (and 1 more)


It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
">=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5[dbus,sql,svg,webkit,X]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-python/PyQt4-4.5.4-r4 (Change USE: +sql +webkit)
(dependency required by "kde-base/pykde4-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "world" [argument])
============================
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

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On Monday 19 October 2009, you wrote:
> 2009/10/19 Remy Blank <remy.blank@pobox.com>:
> > Mick wrote:
> >> I've added -mysql in /etc/portage/package.use for x11-libs/qt-sql but
> >> it makes no difference.
> >
> > You should add -mysql for the package app-office/akonadi-server instead.
>
> This looks more promising, thanks.  Still pam seems to be getting
> confused 

I hope it is not bad form answering my own post ... I've now uninstalled 
anything with net-wireless/bluez* in it, but I am still getting this:
==============================================
# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sys-auth/pambase:0

  ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] required by 
('ebuild', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r2', 'merge')

  ('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    sys-auth/pambase required by world
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20081028 required by 
('installed', '/', 'net-misc/openssh-5.2_p1-r3', 'nomerge')
    >=sys-auth/pambase-20080219.1 required by 
('installed', '/', 'sys-apps/shadow-4.1.2.2', 'nomerge')
    (and 1 more)


It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to 
satisfy ">=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5[dbus,sql,svg,webkit,X]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-python/PyQt4-4.5.4-r4 (Change USE: +sql +webkit)
(dependency required by "kde-base/pykde4-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "world" [argument])
==============================================

This all started this morning after an eix-sync crashed on me because the 
laptop run out of battery.  I removed /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp.chk and 
resync'ed after that - so I don't believe that this is what caused this mess.

I have also remerged portage and eix.  What else is there to try to fix this 
problem?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:42:36 +0100, Mick wrote:

> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
> 
> sys-auth/pambase:0
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'merge') pulled in
> by sys-auth/pambase required by world

why do you have pambase in world?

>     sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] required by 
> ('ebuild', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r2', 'merge')

It looks like you need to re-emerge pambase with USE=consolekit.

> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to 
> satisfy ">=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5[dbus,sql,svg,webkit,X]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> - dev-python/PyQt4-4.5.4-r4 (Change USE: +sql +webkit)

You need to re-emerge PyQt4 with USE="sql webkit", or you could install
kdebase-meta with USE="-python".


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"If Microsoft built cars, the worlds population would be in decline"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:42:36 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> > pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
> >
> > sys-auth/pambase:0
> >
> >   ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/pambase-20090620.1-r1', 'merge') pulled in
> > by sys-auth/pambase required by world
>
> why do you have pambase in world?
>
> >     sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] required by
> > ('ebuild', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r2', 'merge')
>
> It looks like you need to re-emerge pambase with USE=consolekit.
>
> > emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to
> > satisfy ">=dev-python/PyQt4-4.5[dbus,sql,svg,webkit,X]".
> > !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> > - dev-python/PyQt4-4.5.4-r4 (Change USE: +sql +webkit)
>
> You need to re-emerge PyQt4 with USE="sql webkit", or you could install
> kdebase-meta with USE="-python".

Thanks Neil,

Could it be that all this is caused by KDE-4.3 going stable?  Perhaps I should 
now bite the bullet unmerge all my KDE-3.5 packages and start a mammoth 
emerge of KDE-4 ?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:52:47 +0100, Mick wrote:

> Could it be that all this is caused by KDE-4.3 going stable?  Perhaps I
> should now bite the bullet unmerge all my KDE-3.5 packages and start a
> mammoth emerge of KDE-4 ?

That could be the case, so either install KDE4 or mask it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the
entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, "Wish you were here."

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> Could it be that all this is caused by KDE-4.3 going stable?  Perhaps I
>  should now bite the bullet unmerge all my KDE-3.5 packages and start a
>  mammoth emerge of KDE-4 ?

Uh, I am running KDE 4 for half a year now, but it still lacks stability. I 
still like it, and I can live with that, and also had some problems with 
KDE3, so I just jumped to the next version. But I can understand why people 
are disappointed with it and stick to KDE3. So, emerging KDE4 probably is a 
good idea, but unless you need to remove it, I would keep KDE3 for a while. 
I have both, and no problems.

I think I have to do some bug reports now. I have a loong list of KDE4 
problems I noted, and I hoped switching from 4.2 to 4.3 would solve many of 
them, but actually not much did change. Well, at last konqueror's bookmark 
editor is working now, this was annoying and made me wonder why such a bug 
made it into a release.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>:
> Mick writes:
>
>> Could it be that all this is caused by KDE-4.3 going stable?  Perhaps I
>>  should now bite the bullet unmerge all my KDE-3.5 packages and start a
>>  mammoth emerge of KDE-4 ?
>
> Uh, I am running KDE 4 for half a year now, but it still lacks stability. I
> still like it, and I can live with that, and also had some problems with
> KDE3, so I just jumped to the next version. But I can understand why people
> are disappointed with it and stick to KDE3. So, emerging KDE4 probably is a
> good idea, but unless you need to remove it, I would keep KDE3 for a while.
> I have both, and no problems.
>
> I think I have to do some bug reports now. I have a loong list of KDE4
> problems I noted, and I hoped switching from 4.2 to 4.3 would solve many of
> them, but actually not much did change. Well, at last konqueror's bookmark
> editor is working now, this was annoying and made me wonder why such a bug
> made it into a release.

I really, really depend on Kmail and to some extent on Konqueror
(fish, webdav and also as a file manager).  This is an old laptop
overdue for replacement - so could hold onto KDE3.5 with this one and
jump straight into KDE4 when I buy a new laptop within a month or so.

How is Kmail/Konqueror behaving on KDE4?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> 2009/10/20 Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>:

> I really, really depend on Kmail and to some extent on Konqueror
> (fish, webdav and also as a file manager).  This is an old laptop
> overdue for replacement - so could hold onto KDE3.5 with this one and
> jump straight into KDE4 when I buy a new laptop within a month or so.
> 
> How is Kmail/Konqueror behaving on KDE4?

Kmail is running fine. There are some problems, but there also were with 
3.5, it crashed quite often, sometimes several times a day. With version 4, 
I had a single crash only.

My bug list for kontact/kmail:
- I can have multiple mail folders opened at once, which is nice, but new 
mails do not appear then. They show up in the folder tree, but so display 
them, I have to change into another folder and than back.
- While fetching new mail, I cannot open a new mail folder.
- New folders (created on the IMAP mail server) are not shown automatically.
- I can search for messages, but cannot open the ones I found.
- Saved attachments were empty, but I cannot reproduce that now, it's 
probably fixed.
- Sometimes when logging in, kontact complains it is already running and 
asks whether it should really be started. If I say yes, it crashes, if I say 
no, it does not start. No problem when starting manually the nest time.

Konqueror is great. New features:
- It allows opening of recently closed objects.
- When it dies, at next start a dialog asks whether the last session should 
be restored. The restored session also has all the history, so I can use the 
back button.

Konqueror bugs:
- I always have garbage in the status line, showing parts of other opened 
tabs.
- Sometimes, a tab has scrolling problems. That is, I scroll down a little, 
but only the very top ob the page is updated. If I scroll fast, more is 
updated, if I scroll a whole page down, the display is okay. Workaround is 
to open the same page in a new tab.
- When saving images by drag'nDrop into a dolphin folder I am always being 
asked whether to copy, move or to crate a shortcut, even if I press the Ctrl 
key.
- For a few times, the mouse vanished when inside konqueror. Did not happen 
since I use 4.3.
- With KDE < 4.3, the bookmark editor crashes when moving a second entry to 
another location.
- Also with KDE < 4.3, mouse gestures in konqueror did not work at all, but 
this is fixed.
- Oh, and also the fish:// protocol is working again!

So, these are minor problems only, both kmail and konqueror run better than 
in KDE 3.5, at least for me. But I do not use konqueror as file manager any 
more, I am trying out dolphin.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>:
> Mick writes:
>
>> 2009/10/20 Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>:
>
>> I really, really depend on Kmail and to some extent on Konqueror
>> (fish, webdav and also as a file manager).  This is an old laptop
>> overdue for replacement - so could hold onto KDE3.5 with this one and
>> jump straight into KDE4 when I buy a new laptop within a month or so.
>>
>> How is Kmail/Konqueror behaving on KDE4?
>
> Kmail is running fine. There are some problems, but there also were with
> 3.5, it crashed quite often, sometimes several times a day. With version 4,
> I had a single crash only.
>
> My bug list for kontact/kmail:
> - I can have multiple mail folders opened at once, which is nice, but new
> mails do not appear then. They show up in the folder tree, but so display
> them, I have to change into another folder and than back.
> - While fetching new mail, I cannot open a new mail folder.
> - New folders (created on the IMAP mail server) are not shown automatically.
> - I can search for messages, but cannot open the ones I found.
> - Saved attachments were empty, but I cannot reproduce that now, it's
> probably fixed.
> - Sometimes when logging in, kontact complains it is already running and
> asks whether it should really be started. If I say yes, it crashes, if I say
> no, it does not start. No problem when starting manually the nest time.
>
> Konqueror is great. New features:
> - It allows opening of recently closed objects.
> - When it dies, at next start a dialog asks whether the last session should
> be restored. The restored session also has all the history, so I can use the
> back button.
>
> Konqueror bugs:
> - I always have garbage in the status line, showing parts of other opened
> tabs.
> - Sometimes, a tab has scrolling problems. That is, I scroll down a little,
> but only the very top ob the page is updated. If I scroll fast, more is
> updated, if I scroll a whole page down, the display is okay. Workaround is
> to open the same page in a new tab.
> - When saving images by drag'nDrop into a dolphin folder I am always being
> asked whether to copy, move or to crate a shortcut, even if I press the Ctrl
> key.
> - For a few times, the mouse vanished when inside konqueror. Did not happen
> since I use 4.3.
> - With KDE < 4.3, the bookmark editor crashes when moving a second entry to
> another location.
> - Also with KDE < 4.3, mouse gestures in konqueror did not work at all, but
> this is fixed.
> - Oh, and also the fish:// protocol is working again!
>
> So, these are minor problems only, both kmail and konqueror run better than
> in KDE 3.5, at least for me. But I do not use konqueror as file manager any
> more, I am trying out dolphin.

Sounds promising - I've had no Kmail 3.5 crashes that I can think of
so it may be OK with 4 too.  Thanks for sharing.



-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 13:00:04 Mick wrote:
> I really, really depend on Kmail and to some extent on Konqueror
> (fish, webdav and also as a file manager).  This is an old laptop
> overdue for replacement - so could hold onto KDE3.5 with this one and
> jump straight into KDE4 when I buy a new laptop within a month or so.
> 
> How is Kmail/Konqueror behaving on KDE4?
> 

KMail is fine on 4.3.2. I had issues with it randomly crashing when I moved 
mails around, but that seems to have been sorted with the latest version.

Konqueror - well now, that's a different story:

- web shortcuts (gg:  wp:  etc) do not work. At all. Period.
- randomly suddenly using 100% cpu when visiting forum sites (NO flash). Only 
workaround is to kill konqueror
- fish:// does not work
- last merged toolbar item in toolbars randomly moves around, often triggered 
by switching between filemanager and browser modes
- plugin support is awful. Forget AJAX, it does not work which counts out 
gmail and half the support sites I use at work

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> On Tuesday 20 October 2009 13:00:04 Mick wrote:
>> I really, really depend on Kmail and to some extent on Konqueror
>> (fish, webdav and also as a file manager).  This is an old laptop
>> overdue for replacement - so could hold onto KDE3.5 with this one and
>> jump straight into KDE4 when I buy a new laptop within a month or so.
>>
>> How is Kmail/Konqueror behaving on KDE4?
>>
>
> KMail is fine on 4.3.2. I had issues with it randomly crashing when I moved
> mails around, but that seems to have been sorted with the latest version.
>
> Konqueror - well now, that's a different story:
>
> - web shortcuts (gg:  wp:  etc) do not work. At all. Period.
> - randomly suddenly using 100% cpu when visiting forum sites (NO flash). Only
> workaround is to kill konqueror
> - fish:// does not work
> - last merged toolbar item in toolbars randomly moves around, often triggered
> by switching between filemanager and browser modes
> - plugin support is awful. Forget AJAX, it does not work which counts out
> gmail and half the support sites I use at work

Oh dear!  Have you confirmed these on different machines - just in case?

I have removed pambase from world (how did that end up in there?) and
rebuilt PyQt4 with sql and webkit, as well as net-libs/libgadu with
threads that came up when I tried to run update world.  Now I have a
lorry load of KDE4 packages wanting to be installed:

238 packages (3 upgrades, 131 new, 103 in new slots, 1 reinstall, 2
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 484,302 kB
Conflict: 2 blocks

I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
the best way to do this?  Uninstall *everything* from KDE3.5 and then
launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
slots?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alex Schuster]

Alan McKinnon writes:

> KMail is fine on 4.3.2. I had issues with it randomly crashing when I
>  moved mails around, but that seems to have been sorted with the latest
>  version.

I also had some problems, when moving some thousands of IMAP mails, but I 
also had this with 3.5. I am using thunderbird for this, which is far more 
stable.

> Konqueror - well now, that's a different story:
> 
> - web shortcuts (gg:  wp:  etc) do not work. At all. Period.

They do here. I have configured them to have a blank as separator instead of 
the colon, maybe this is also set different in your setup? Oh my, I can't 
imagine to live without the shortcuts anymore. But then I said the same for 
mouse gestures, and had to live for half a year without.

> - randomly suddenly using 100% cpu when visiting forum sites (NO flash).
>  Only workaround is to kill konqueror

Did not see this (yet).

> - fish:// does not work

Had problems with 4.1 and 4.2, works with 4.3.2. What error do you get?

> - plugin support is awful. Forget AJAX, it does not work which counts out
> gmail and half the support sites I use at work

Do you have an example so I can try to reproduce this (I do not use gmail)?

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> I have removed pambase from world (how did that end up in there?) and
> rebuilt PyQt4 with sql and webkit, as well as net-libs/libgadu with
> threads that came up when I tried to run update world.  Now I have a
> lorry load of KDE4 packages wanting to be installed:
> 
> 238 packages (3 upgrades, 131 new, 103 in new slots, 1 reinstall, 2
> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 484,302 kB
> Conflict: 2 blocks
> 
> I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
> the best way to do this?  Uninstall *everything* from KDE3.5 and then
> launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
> slots?

I see no problem in just installing them, without removing KDE 3.5.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>:
> Mick writes:
>
>> I have removed pambase from world (how did that end up in there?) and
>> rebuilt PyQt4 with sql and webkit, as well as net-libs/libgadu with
>> threads that came up when I tried to run update world.  Now I have a
>> lorry load of KDE4 packages wanting to be installed:
>>
>> 238 packages (3 upgrades, 131 new, 103 in new slots, 1 reinstall, 2
>> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 484,302 kB
>> Conflict: 2 blocks
>>
>> I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
>> the best way to do this?  Uninstall *everything* from KDE3.5 and then
>> launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
>> slots?
>
> I see no problem in just installing them, without removing KDE 3.5.

Hmm ... disk space.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 15:44:07 Mick wrote:
> I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
> the best way to do this?  Uninstall everything from KDE3.5 and then
> launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
> slots?
> 

KDE:3 and KDE:4 happily co-exist in much the same way that gnome and KDE:4 
happily co-exist

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 15:30:03 schrieb Alan McKinnon:

> Konqueror - well now, that's a different story:
> 
> - web shortcuts (gg:  wp:  etc) do not work. At all. Period.

Works fine here. Period ;-)

> - fish:// does not work

Dito.

4.3.2, though.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 15:59:08 schrieb Alex Schuster:
> Mick writes:
>
> > I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
> > the best way to do this?  Uninstall *everything* from KDE3.5 and then
> > launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
> > slots?
> 
> I see no problem in just installing them, without removing KDE 3.5.

But you'll need to add "kdeprefix" to your USE flags.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 15:48:41 Alex Schuster wrote:
> Alan McKinnon writes:
 
> > Konqueror - well now, that's a different story:
> >
> > - web shortcuts (gg:  wp:  etc) do not work. At all. Period.
> 
> They do here. I have configured them to have a blank as separator instead
>  of the colon, maybe this is also set different in your setup? Oh my, I
>  can't imagine to live without the shortcuts anymore. But then I said the
>  same for mouse gestures, and had to live for half a year without.

Now they work again, I hadn't checked for about a week. Weird...

> > - randomly suddenly using 100% cpu when visiting forum sites (NO flash).
> >  Only workaround is to kill konqueror
> 
> Did not see this (yet).
> 
> > - fish:// does not work
> 
> Had problems with 4.1 and 4.2, works with 4.3.2. What error do you get?

consistently get a "could not connect error page", but ssh:// works fine

> > - plugin support is awful. Forget AJAX, it does not work which counts out
> > gmail and half the support sites I use at work
> 
> Do you have an example so I can try to reproduce this (I do not use gmail)?

gmail and internal sites here at work are the only ones I use myself. Which 
doesn't leave much room for you to test at


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> On Tuesday 20 October 2009 15:44:07 Mick wrote:
>> I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
>> the best way to do this?  Uninstall everything from KDE3.5 and then
>> launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
>> slots?
>>
>
> KDE:3 and KDE:4 happily co-exist in much the same way that gnome and KDE:4
> happily co-exist
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>

Bloody thing:

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
">=dev-libs/soprano-2.3.0[clucene,dbus,raptor,java]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-libs/soprano-2.3.1 (Change USE: +java)
(dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "world" [argument])

Why on earth does kmail need jdk?  How can I avoid installing java?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 16:04:38 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 15:59:08 schrieb Alex Schuster:
> > Mick writes:
> > > I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
> > > the best way to do this?  Uninstall *everything* from KDE3.5 and then
> > > launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
> > > slots?
> >
> > I see no problem in just installing them, without removing KDE 3.5.
> 
> But you'll need to add "kdeprefix" to your USE flags.

That is incorrect and the reason why is CLEARLY explained in the gentoo 
official KDE install docs

USE="kdeprefix" is not supported under any circumstances and has not effect on 
KDE:3.5 at all

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 20 October 2009 16:07:23 Mick wrote:
> 2009/10/20 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> > On Tuesday 20 October 2009 15:44:07 Mick wrote:
> >> I will probably have to face this sooner rather than later.  What's
> >> the best way to do this?  Uninstall everything from KDE3.5 and then
> >> launch into this KDE4 upgrade marathon, or just emerge KDE4 in new
> >> slots?
> >
> > KDE:3 and KDE:4 happily co-exist in much the same way that gnome and
> > KDE:4 happily co-exist
> >
> > --
> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> 
> Bloody thing:
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
> ">=dev-libs/soprano-2.3.0[clucene,dbus,raptor,java]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> - dev-libs/soprano-2.3.1 (Change USE: +java)
> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "world" [argument])
> 
> Why on earth does kmail need jdk?  How can I avoid installing java?

It doesn't. You have USE="semantic-desktop" so kmail pulls in nepomuk which 
pulls in soprano which requires java support

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:07:23 +0100, Mick wrote:

> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
> ">=dev-libs/soprano-2.3.0[clucene,dbus,raptor,java]".  
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> - dev-libs/soprano-2.3.1 (Change USE: +java)
> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "world" [argument])
> 
> Why on earth does kmail need jdk?

It doesn't, it needs nepomuk which in turn needs soprano with either the
java or redland USE flag.

> How can I avoid installing java?

Either merge soprano with USE="redland" or set USE="-semantic-desktop"
to do without nepomuk altogether.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Life's a cache, and then you flush...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:09:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> USE="kdeprefix" is not supported under any circumstances and has not
> effect on KDE:3.5 at all

The only time you need it, and you'll have to unmask the flag to do so,
is if you are using two different KDE4 slots, like 4.3 and 4.2.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Windows - From the people who brought you EDLIN!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:07:23 +0100, Mick wrote:
>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
>> ">=dev-libs/soprano-2.3.0[clucene,dbus,raptor,java]".
>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
>> - dev-libs/soprano-2.3.1 (Change USE: +java)
>> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "world" [argument])
>>
>> Why on earth does kmail need jdk?
>
> It doesn't, it needs nepomuk which in turn needs soprano with either the
> java or redland USE flag.
>
>> How can I avoid installing java?
>
> Either merge soprano with USE="redland" or set USE="-semantic-desktop"
> to do without nepomuk altogether.

Thank you all for persisting with me.  :-)

I'm afraid the -semantic-desktop USE flag did not cut it.  So, I
emerged dev-libs/soprano with -java +redland and all seems good.

A few more things that look odd are:

[ebuild  N    ] net-libs/libvncserver-0.9.1  USE="jpeg zlib -no24bpp
-nobackchannel" 1,036 kB [0]
[ebuild  N    ] sys-boot/lilo-22.8-r2  USE="-device-mapper -minimal
-pxeserial -static" 431 kB [0]
[ebuild  N    ] dev-games/libggz-0.0.14.1  USE="-debug -gnutls" 467 kB [0]
[ebuild  N    ] dev-games/ggz-client-libs-0.0.14.1  USE="-debug" 600 kB [0]

I don't really need a vnc server on this machine.  I also don't need
games and I prefer GRUB to LILO.  So why is KDE4 springing all these
goodies onto me?

How should I tell it not to?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Mick]

2009/10/20 Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:
> 2009/10/20 Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:07:23 +0100, Mick wrote:
>>
>>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
>>> ">=dev-libs/soprano-2.3.0[clucene,dbus,raptor,java]".
>>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
>>> - dev-libs/soprano-2.3.1 (Change USE: +java)
>>> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.1" [ebuild])
>>> (dependency required by "kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1" [ebuild])
>>> (dependency required by "world" [argument])
>>>
>>> Why on earth does kmail need jdk?
>>
>> It doesn't, it needs nepomuk which in turn needs soprano with either the
>> java or redland USE flag.
>>
>>> How can I avoid installing java?
>>
>> Either merge soprano with USE="redland" or set USE="-semantic-desktop"
>> to do without nepomuk altogether.
>
> Thank you all for persisting with me.  :-)
>
> I'm afraid the -semantic-desktop USE flag did not cut it.  So, I
> emerged dev-libs/soprano with -java +redland and all seems good.
>
> A few more things that look odd are:
>
> [ebuild  N    ] net-libs/libvncserver-0.9.1  USE="jpeg zlib -no24bpp
> -nobackchannel" 1,036 kB [0]
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-boot/lilo-22.8-r2  USE="-device-mapper -minimal
> -pxeserial -static" 431 kB [0]
> [ebuild  N    ] dev-games/libggz-0.0.14.1  USE="-debug -gnutls" 467 kB [0]
> [ebuild  N    ] dev-games/ggz-client-libs-0.0.14.1  USE="-debug" 600 kB [0]
>
> I don't really need a vnc server on this machine.  I also don't need
> games and I prefer GRUB to LILO.  So why is KDE4 springing all these
> goodies onto me?
>
> How should I tell it not to?
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>

Ditto for sys-devel/bin86 - do I need such a thing?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:15:20 +0100, Mick wrote:

> I don't really need a vnc server on this machine.  I also don't need
> games and I prefer GRUB to LILO.  So why is KDE4 springing all these
> goodies onto me?
> 
> How should I tell it not to?

Use the --tree option with emerge to see what is bringing these in (KDE4
doesn't try to merge lilo here) and read the ebuilds if it is still not
clear.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
appreciates how difficult it was.

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[gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Remy Blank]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> appreciates how difficult it was.

Yes, oooh yes... :-)

-- Remy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql USE flag error

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Dienstag 20 Oktober 2009 16:14:56 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:09:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > USE="kdeprefix" is not supported under any circumstances and has not
> > effect on KDE:3.5 at all
> 
> The only time you need it, and you'll have to unmask the flag to do so,
> is if you are using two different KDE4 slots, like 4.3 and 4.2.

Ah, ok.

Bye...

	Dirk

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