[gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an iso 
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
came to the conclusion that the combination of 
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
recommend?
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[jak gentoo]

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On 12/3/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
> to
> take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
> (if
> it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
> iso
> image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I
> came to the conclusion that the combination of
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
>
> So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my
> movies
> when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
> some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
> they
> could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:
>
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
>
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
> recommend?
> --
> Regards,
> Mick



Hi Mick,
I'm not sure if this is what you want, but there is a tool in portage called
dvdrip, maybe that helps.
I never used it so I don't know if it will suit your needs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Novensiles divi Flamen]

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On Sunday 03 December 2006 23:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
> to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
> (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
>
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
> recommend?

For travelling I transcode my movies and fit three on a single DVD. If you are 
only watching it on your laptop this is fine, although you can see artifacts 
at that ratio. I use DVD::RIP and set it based on a target size of 1.5GB.

You can get all manual about it and use just the vobs and be all mathematical 
about the transcode CLI options, but for my time and simple movies on the go 
DVD::RIP is the shit.

- Noven
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>---- Miles Militis Fons ----<

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Uwe Thiem]

On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
> to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
> (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
> iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
> topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

>
> So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies
> when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
> some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
> they could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are
> approx.:
>
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
>
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
> recommend?


--- begin script ---

#! /bin/sh

BITRATE="730"

VIDCOM="-ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=$BITRATE:pass"
AUDCOM="-oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0:br=64"

RMLOG="rm divx*.log"

if [ $# != 2 ]; then
  echo "Usage: encode infile outfile"
  exit 1
fi

$RMLOG

mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=1 $AUDCOM -o $2
mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=2 $AUDCOM -o $2

$RMLOG

--- end script ---

if you launch the script like "encode dvd:// yourfile.avi" it will read from 
the dvd drive. You might want to set BITRATE to something in the range of 
2000.

Beware, this is *extremely* slow but leads to the best quality at the highest 
compressions rate (depending on BITRATE) I have encountered so far.

Oh yes, and you need the x264 codec. It is in portage.

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem <uwix@iway.na> wrote:
> On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
>> to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
>> (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>>
>> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
>> iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
>> topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
>> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
>> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
>> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
>
> So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning 
either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
Samsung drive.]

-- 
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                                  at               
                               visi.com            

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem <uwix@iway.na> wrote:
> > On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
> >> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
> >> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
> >>
> >> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn
> >> an iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
> >> topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
> >> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
> >> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
> >> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
> >
> > So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.
>
> I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
> drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
> the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning
> either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
> Samsung drive.]

Thanks for all the suggestions!  My Phillips DVD writer is internally mounted.  
After about half way instead of flipping over and burning the second layer it 
just fails with an input/output error.  I've tried my Gentoo OS and a Knoppix 
CD just in case it was a matter of OS/application settings, but the same 
error occurred.

I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:

media-video/dvdrip
media-video/acidrip
media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip

How do they compare?

Two more Qs:
Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit 
choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I 
have used:
=================================
mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac 
mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
=================================

If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one 
or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.  The think 
is I cannot read what it says fully because the character set in my terminal 
gets screwed up:
=================================
videocodec: XviD (720x576 fourcc=44495658 [XVID])
xvid: par=0/0 (vga11), displayed=1024x576, sampled=720x576
xvid: you must specify one or a valid combination 
of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings
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Any idea how I can fix this?

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Iain Buchanan]

On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 18:54 +0000, Mick wrote:

> I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:
> 
> media-video/dvdrip
> media-video/acidrip
> media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip
> 
> How do they compare?

I've never found a gui dvd ripper that I really liked.  I just transcode
the vob files by hand.

> Two more Qs:
> Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit 
> choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I 
> have used:
> =================================
> mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac 
> mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
> =================================

not sure about the frame dropping... did you try x264 as suggest
earlier?

here's the mencoder options I used to transcode some dv.  I've found
with mencoder, the best way is to try lots of times, and see what works
the best.  (Only try a minute at a time, or you'll end up waisting a lot
of time :)

mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
scale=720:576,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192:aspect=4/3 -ofps 25 -o tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.mpeg tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.dv 

This was after some playing around to get to mpeg2 to burn later to dvd.

> If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one 
> or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.

dunno... try leaving of the "pass" option and see?

HTH,
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Alan E. Davis]

I am not an expert about this.  I have used dvd:rip to copy a dvd DL
file (8+GB) to HDD.  After mounting the image as a loop device (see
man mount) I was able to burn the image to a disk with dvd9to5.  It
worked in that particular instance.

Alan

On 12/4/06, Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 18:54 +0000, Mick wrote:
>
> > I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:
> >
> > media-video/dvdrip
> > media-video/acidrip
> > media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip
> >
> > How do they compare?
>
> I've never found a gui dvd ripper that I really liked.  I just transcode
> the vob files by hand.
>
> > Two more Qs:
> > Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit
> > choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I
> > have used:
> > =================================
> > mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac
> > mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
> > =================================
>
> not sure about the frame dropping... did you try x264 as suggest
> earlier?
>
> here's the mencoder options I used to transcode some dv.  I've found
> with mencoder, the best way is to try lots of times, and see what works
> the best.  (Only try a minute at a time, or you'll end up waisting a lot
> of time :)
>
> mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
> scale=720:576,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
> vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192:aspect=4/3 -ofps 25 -o tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.mpeg tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.dv
>
> This was after some playing around to get to mpeg2 to burn later to dvd.
>
> > If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one
> > or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.
>
> dunno... try leaving of the "pass" option and see?
>
> HTH,
> --
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>
>
> Free Speech Is The Right To Shout 'Theater' In A Crowded Fire.
>                 -- A Yippie Proverb
>
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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must share it with other people who like it.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[mephist0666]

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Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
>   
>> On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem <uwix@iway.na> wrote:
>>     
>>> On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
>>>> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
>>>> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn
>>>> an iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
>>>> topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
>>>> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
>>>> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
>>>> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
>>>>         
>>> So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.
>>>       
>> I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
>> drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
>> the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning
>> either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
>> Samsung drive.]
>>     
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions!  My Phillips DVD writer is internally mounted.  
> After about half way instead of flipping over and burning the second layer it 
> just fails with an input/output error.  I've tried my Gentoo OS and a Knoppix 
> CD just in case it was a matter of OS/application settings, but the same 
> error occurred.
>
>
>   

I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second 
layer.
I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.

Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems 
burning.

HTH



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Monday 04 December 2006 11:57, mephist0666@gmx.net wrote:

> I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
> It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second
> layer.  I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.
>
> Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems
> burning.

I am placing an order as I'm writing this.  Thanks for the hint!
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[rob]

I Just use dvdrip emerge it works fine.


> On Monday 04 December 2006 11:57, mephist0666@gmx.net wrote:
> > I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
> > It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second
> > layer.  I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.
> >
> > Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems
> > burning.
>
> I am placing an order as I'm writing this.  Thanks for the hint!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:04, rob wrote:
> I Just use dvdrip emerge it works fine.
>

I have used dvdrip and it created an avi file.  I have come across two issues 
since which I am not sure how to resolve:

1. Although I set the size of the media to 4700MB, dvdrip created a file which 
is just 2.9G (according to K3B).
2. I burned it to a DVD, but cannot mount it!  I am lost as to why I can't 
mount the darn thing.  I get a message: 

# mount -t udf /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd
mount: No medium found

I tried UDF because auto, or iso9660, didn't work either.  I tried 
mounting/playing it on a colleague's WinXP box and it worked fine.  What's up 
with this?

This is what my fstab has:

/dev/dvd   /mnt/dvd   auto,iso9660,udf   noauto,ro,user,exec   0 0

Any suggestions on either front would be great.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:19, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:04, rob wrote:
> > I Just use dvdrip emerge it works fine.
>
> I have used dvdrip and it created an avi file.  I have come across two
> issues since which I am not sure how to resolve:
>
> 1. Although I set the size of the media to 4700MB, dvdrip created a file
> which is just 2.9G (according to K3B).
> 2. I burned it to a DVD, but cannot mount it!  I am lost as to why I can't
> mount the darn thing.  I get a message:
>
> # mount -t udf /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd
> mount: No medium found
>
> I tried UDF because auto, or iso9660, didn't work either.  I tried
> mounting/playing it on a colleague's WinXP box and it worked fine.  What's
> up with this?
>
> This is what my fstab has:
>
> /dev/dvd   /mnt/dvd   auto,iso9660,udf   noauto,ro,user,exec   0 0
>
It seems that it has something to do with the joliet thing again that I used 
to burn it.  From dmesg:

ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISOFS: changing to secondary root

What does this mean?  Why can't my Gentoo read it?  Something I need to set in 
the kernel?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Bira]

On 12/7/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that it has something to do with the joliet thing again that I used
> to burn it.  From dmesg:
>
> ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> ISOFS: changing to secondary root
>
> What does this mean?  Why can't my Gentoo read it?  Something I need to set in
> the kernel?
>

That's probably it - in the "make menuconfig" menu, it should be named
something like "Joliet filesystem support", and be right next to the
option for UDF.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Thursday 07 December 2006 15:03, Bira wrote:
> On 12/7/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems that it has something to do with the joliet thing again that I
> > used to burn it.  From dmesg:
> >
> > ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> > ISOFS: changing to secondary root
> >
> > What does this mean?  Why can't my Gentoo read it?  Something I need to
> > set in the kernel?
>
> That's probably it - in the "make menuconfig" menu, it should be named
> something like "Joliet filesystem support", and be right next to the
> option for UDF.

Thanks, but I have Joliet configured in the kernel:

# cat .config | grep -i JOLIET
CONFIG_JOLIET=y

as well as UDF:

# cat .config | grep -i UDF   
CONFIG_UDF_FS=y
CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +0000, Mick wrote:

> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower bitrate. A
simple program for doing just this is k9copy



* app-cdr/k9copy
     Available versions:  !1.0.3b !1.0.4 [M]1.1.0_beta1 [M]1.1.0_beta2
     Homepage:            http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
     Description:         k9copy is a DVD backup utility which allow the
                          copy of one or more titles from a DVD9 to a DVD5


-- 
Neil Bothwick

To most people solutions mean finding the answers.  But to chemists
solutions are things that are still all mixed up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Stroller]

On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +0000, Mick wrote:
>
>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
>> another
>> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
>> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
> If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
> need to
> transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
> bitrate...

Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
& he has not decrypted them.

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Stroller]

On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:

>
> On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +0000, Mick wrote:
>>
>>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
>>> another
>>> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
>>> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>>
>> If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
>> need to
>> transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
>> bitrate...
>
> Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same  
> bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region- 
> encoded & he has not decrypted them.

Ooops! My apologies.

Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually  
1/2way through burning.

Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his  
movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

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On Sunday 03 December 2006 19:19, Stroller wrote:
> On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:
> > On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +0000, Mick wrote:
> >>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to
> >>> another
> >>> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
> >>> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
> >>
> >> If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you
> >> need to
> >> transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower
> >> bitrate...
> >
> > Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same
> > bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-
> > encoded & he has not decrypted them.
>
> Ooops! My apologies.
>
> Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually
> 1/2way through burning.
>
> Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his
> movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.

Thanks Stroller, I have not intentionally 'de-regionalised' the movie.  
However, I can: 

 - Play them straight from the DVD drive with mplayer/xine.  

 - Rip an iso of the DVD onto the hard drive, mount it and play any *vob files 
in it with mplayer/xine.  

 - Use mencoder and turn each *.vob file on the hard drive into an *.avi, 
which I can thereafter play.

What I can't do is save the DVD, or its iso onto a DVD+R DL.

On the other hand if the quality loss is not that great and helps me save them 
on single layer (cheaper) re-writable DVDs, I don't mind transcoding them to 
a different lossy format. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:03:57 +0000, Stroller wrote:

> Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
> rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
> & he has not decrypted them.

I thought he was unable to burn DL DVDs, getting an error halfway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Robert Walter]

hi
i have 2 favorites
the 1st is app-cdr/dvdshrink. it shrinks the movie and creates a single dvd image. burn it with k3b and play it back with any dvd player
the 2nd is media-video/dvdrip. it creates a divx/xvid movie that you can play on computers or divx capable dvd players.
best regards robert

On Sunday 03 December 2006 14:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
> take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
> it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
> 
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an iso 
> image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
> came to the conclusion that the combination of 
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
> 
> So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
> when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
> some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
> could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:
> 
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
> 
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
> recommend?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Stroller]

On 3 Dec 2006, at 13:28, Mick wrote:
> ...
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to  
> burn an iso
> image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent  
> topic) I
> came to the conclusion that the combination of
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work....

I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it works  
by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored in a special  
part of the DVD's header. This "header" part of the DVD is not  
writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard that "authoring" DVD- 
burners which support it cost several thousand pounds), so a  
"bitwise" copy of a DVD cannot be decrypted (because the key is  
missing).

As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first make a  
copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding removed - onto  
hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD "compilation". The result is  
an R0 disk which should play fine in any standard player.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2006-12-03, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

> I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
> handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
(decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:

$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
<remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer>
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/<TITLENAME>

> CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
> works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
> in a special part of the DVD's header. This "header" part of
> the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
> that "authoring" DVD- burners which support it cost several
> thousand pounds), so a "bitwise" copy of a DVD cannot be
> decrypted (because the key is missing).
>
> As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
> make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
> removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
> "compilation". The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
> in any standard player.

Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
same-size copies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

[Mick]

On 03/12/06, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote:
> On 2006-12-03, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it
> > handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.
>
> I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
> (decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:
>
> $ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
> <remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer>
> $ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/<TITLENAME>
>
> > CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
> > works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
> > in a special part of the DVD's header. This "header" part of
> > the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
> > that "authoring" DVD- burners which support it cost several
> > thousand pounds), so a "bitwise" copy of a DVD cannot be
> > decrypted (because the key is missing).
> >
> > As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
> > make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
> > removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
> > "compilation". The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
> > in any standard player.
>
> Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
> same-size copies.

This is getting me down: <sigh . . .>
=================================
$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o dvds
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN | builtin_dd
of=/dev/dvd obs=32k seek=0'
  0.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
  0.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
  0.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
/dev/dvd: splitting layers at 1750000 blocks
/dev/dvd: "Current Write Speed" is 2.5x1385KBps.
  0.57% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:14 2006
  0.71% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:48 2006
  0.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:28:12 2006
  1.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
  1.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
[snip...]

 49.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:08 2006
 50.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
 50.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
 50.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:11 2006
 50.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:10 2006
:-[ WRITE@LBA=1abe70h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error
=================================

This must be the third wasted DL DVD.  I think that I will need to
concentrate on transcoding the darn thing from now on.  I wish I could
pin point the problem.  When I tried playing the DVD in M$Windows it
complained about the region not being set - but I didn't have any such
problem in Linux.  Nero express won't even see the DL disk, just shows
the size of CD.  Could it be something to do with the firmware?
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