[gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Grant]

I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
start.

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "mymouse"
#       Driver "mouse"
        Driver "synaptics"
        Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
        Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
        Option "Emulate3Buttons"
        Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
        Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
        Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
        Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
        Option "AccelFactor" "0.005"
#       Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection

I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

- Grant

P.S. Can anyone tell me what the new yellow USE flags are all about?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Grant wrote:
> I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
> errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
> compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
> 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
> two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
> start.
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>        Identifier "mymouse"
> #       Driver "mouse"
>        Driver "synaptics"
>        Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
>        Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
>        Option "Emulate3Buttons"
>        Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
>        Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
>        Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
>        Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
>        Option "AccelFactor" "0.005"
> #       Option "SHMConfig" "on"
> EndSection
> 
> I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
> gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.
> 
> Does anyone know how to fix this?

Try changing the device to /dev/input/mice for the mouse driver. I think
the synaptics driver has to use the event interface.

Thanks,
Donnie


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[gentoo-user] Re: Modular xorg mouse problem

[Mick]

I thought that you meant to add synaptics as a USE flag (but not
sure).  Anyway, try to change "/dev/mouse" to "/dev/mice" and see if
it gets any better.

On 06/07/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
> errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
> compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
> 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
> two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
> start.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier "mymouse"
> #       Driver "mouse"
>         Driver "synaptics"
>         Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
>         Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
>         Option "Emulate3Buttons"
>         Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
>         Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
>         Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
>         Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
>         Option "AccelFactor" "0.005"
> #       Option "SHMConfig" "on"
> EndSection
>
> I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
> gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> - Grant
>
> P.S. Can anyone tell me what the new yellow USE flags are all about?
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/6/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
> errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
> compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
> 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
> two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
> start.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier "mymouse"
> #       Driver "mouse"
>         Driver "synaptics"
>         Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
>         Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"

I believe if you want to use the synaptics driver, you should be using
an "event" interface.  From my xorg.conf:

        Identifier  "touchpad"
        Driver      "synaptics"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/trackpad_evt"
        Option      "Protocol" "event"

I use a special device node because my trackpad and keyboard would
sometimes move around on the generic event nodes.  So I have a udev
rule in 10-local.rules for this:

BUS=="input", KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{phys}=="isa0060/serio1/input0",
NAME:="input/trackpad_evt", SYMLINK="input/%k"

You can use dmesg to figure out the right setting for SYFS{phys}, or
just use /dev/input/eventX in your xorg.conf.

Of course you'll need to have CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV in your kernel
configuration to get the event interfaces.

HTH,
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 7/6/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
> errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
> compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
> 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
> two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
> start.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier "mymouse"
> #       Driver "mouse"
>         Driver "synaptics"
>         Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
>         Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"

Try Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"

>         Option "Emulate3Buttons"
>         Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
>         Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
>         Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
>         Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
>         Option "AccelFactor" "0.005"
> #       Option "SHMConfig" "on"
> EndSection
>
> I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
> gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> - Grant
>
> P.S. Can anyone tell me what the new yellow USE flags are all about?

They are new flags that were not present when the package was last
compiled (AFAIK).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Grant]

> > I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
> > errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
> > compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
> > 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
> > two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
> > start.
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >        Identifier "mymouse"
> > #       Driver "mouse"
> >        Driver "synaptics"
> >        Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
> >        Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> >        Option "Emulate3Buttons"
> >        Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
> >        Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
> >        Option "MinSpeed" "0.3"
> >        Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
> >        Option "AccelFactor" "0.005"
> > #       Option "SHMConfig" "on"
> > EndSection
> >
> > I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
> > gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> Try changing the device to /dev/input/mice for the mouse driver. I think
> the synaptics driver has to use the event interface.
>
> Thanks,
> Donnie

xorg-x11-7.0 is still not working with the synaptics driver but it is
working with this config:

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier "mymouse"
        Driver "mouse"
        Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option "Emulate3Buttons"
        Option "Emulate3Timeout" "150"
EndSection

I've tried specifying:

Option "Protocol" "event"

along with:

Driver "synaptics"

without success.  I always get the following error:

(EE) Failed to load the module "synaptics" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No input matching 'synaptics'

I do have:

[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1  USE="-3dfx"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics -acecad -aiptek -calcomp
-citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit
-hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan -magictouch -microtouch
-mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse
-void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="sis -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy
-fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic
-nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage
-siliconmotion -sisusb -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -vga -via
-vmware -voodoo" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/synaptics-0.14.4-r2  USE="dlloader" 0 kB

and the following in the kernel:

#
# Userland interfaces
#
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768
# CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
# CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG is not set

#
# Input Device Drivers
#
CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y
CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_LKKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set
# CONFIG_KEYBOARD_NEWTON is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
# CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE_VSXXXAA is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_MISC=y
# CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR is not set
CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=y

I wouldn't mind but now I have tap-to-click and I can't stand that.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/7/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> (EE) Failed to load the module "synaptics" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) No input matching 'synaptics'

Hmm, what does "xset -q | grep Modules" report?  It should be
/usr/lib/xorg/modules.

Does synaptics_drv.so exist in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input?

You might also try:
USE=-dllloader emerge --oneshot x11-drivers/synaptics

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Grant]

> > (EE) Failed to load the module "synaptics" (module does not exist, 0)
> > (EE) No input matching 'synaptics'
>
> Hmm, what does "xset -q | grep Modules" report?  It should be
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules.
>
> Does synaptics_drv.so exist in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input?
>
> You might also try:
> USE=-dllloader emerge --oneshot x11-drivers/synaptics

synaptics_drv.so was not there so I emerged synaptics without dlloader
and it appeared.  Then I emerged synaptics with dlloader it was still
there.  Is that a protected directory?

Either way, the synaptics driver is now working in modular xorg and
the tap-to-click is gone.  Thanks for your help!

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/7/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> synaptics_drv.so was not there so I emerged synaptics without dlloader
> and it appeared.  Then I emerged synaptics with dlloader it was still
> there.  Is that a protected directory?

Nope.  Odd.  Oh well, as long as it's working...

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Mick]

On 08/07/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

> Nope.  Odd.  Oh well, as long as it's working...

I hope you don't mind me running with this thread, as I have a similar
problem (I think) to the OP.  On my laptop I have also installed SUSE
10.0 which seems to behave in a different way:  when I double-tap on
the mouse pad while the cursor is over the scroll-bar, it 'captures'
it and by dragging my finger I can scroll up and down.  Lifting my
finger results in the scrollbar being released.  In Gentoo this
feature does not exist and to drag the scroll bar I have to press the
LH mouse pad button.

I've tried copying parts of the SUSE xorg.conf onto gentoo's, but it
won't play ball:
============================
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "synaptics"
        Option      "Protocol" "event"
        Option      "InputFashion" "Mouse"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option       "Name" "Synaptics;Touchpad"
        Option       "SHMConfig" "on"
        Option       "Vendor" "Sysp"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping"      "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons"   "True"
        Option      "Buttons"   "3"
EndSection
============================

The touchpad mouse worked fine with my previous non-synaptics settings:
============================
Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping"      "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons"   "False"
        Option      "Buttons"   "5"
EndSection
============================

Is the synaptics setup what I need to be able to lock & drag the
scroll bar?  Is there anything obvious wrong?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/8/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier  "Mouse0"
>         Driver      "synaptics"
>         Option      "Protocol" "event"
>         Option      "InputFashion" "Mouse"
>         Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"

Did you read the whole thread?  You need to use an event node to use
the synaptics driver:

My original response to Grant:
"""
I believe if you want to use the synaptics driver, you should be using
an "event" interface.  From my xorg.conf:

       Identifier  "touchpad"
       Driver      "synaptics"
       Option      "Device" "/dev/input/trackpad_evt"
       Option      "Protocol" "event"

I use a special device node because my trackpad and keyboard would
sometimes move around on the generic event nodes.  So I have a udev
rule in 10-local.rules for this:

BUS=="input", KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{phys}=="isa0060/serio1/input0",
NAME:="input/trackpad_evt", SYMLINK="input/%k"

You can use dmesg to figure out the right setting for SYFS{phys}, or
just use /dev/input/eventX in your xorg.conf.

Of course you'll need to have CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV in your kernel
configuration to get the event interfaces.
"""

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Mick]

On 08/07/06, Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

> Did you read the whole thread?  You need to use an event node to use
> the synaptics driver:
>
> My original response to Grant:

Thanks I did read it.  I'm afraid I do not understand the term "event"
(as in event-node, event device, event protocol, etc.)  and was not
sure if it is a necessary precondition.  Is a udev rule necessary?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/8/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks I did read it.  I'm afraid I do not understand the term "event"
> (as in event-node, event device, event protocol, etc.)  and was not
> sure if it is a necessary precondition.  Is a udev rule necessary?

The minimum you need is CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV in your kerrnel.  In "make
menuconfig", select Device Drivers->Input device support->Event
Interface".  This will give you device nodes /dev/input/eventN for
your keyboard and mouse, in addition to /dev/input/mouseN and
/dev/input/mice.  You need to use a /dev/input/eventN node with the
synaptics driver.

As I mentioned in my email, I encountered a problem where the event
nodes would switch around on me.  For example, at one boot event0
would be my keyboard and event1 would be the trackpad, but on the next
boot event0 would be the trackpad and event1 would be the keyboard.
The custom udev rule fixed that particular problem.  But you may never
have the same problem, so this is optional.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Mick]

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On Sunday 09 July 2006 00:02, Richard Fish wrote:

> As I mentioned in my email, I encountered a problem where the event
> nodes would switch around on me.  For example, at one boot event0
> would be my keyboard and event1 would be the trackpad, but on the next
> boot event0 would be the trackpad and event1 would be the keyboard.
> The custom udev rule fixed that particular problem.  But you may never
> have the same problem, so this is optional.

Thank you again for your help!  I've rebooted a couple of times to make sure 
that udevstart doesn't change its mind and it seems that so far evdev and 
synaptics works beautifully on my Evo N600c.  :-)

The only thing is that when I plug in an external mouse it does not work.  :-(

Do I need to add more entries in my xorg.conf?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Richard Fish]

On 7/9/06, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only thing is that when I plug in an external mouse it does not work.  :-(
>
> Do I need to add more entries in my xorg.conf?

Yeah, use 2 input device entries in xorg.conf, with the second one
pointing at /dev/input/mice.  Just make sure to list both in the
ServerLayout section.  Mine is setup with:

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Default"
        Screen      0  "LCD" 0 0
        InputDevice    "touchpad" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "usbmouse"
        InputDevice    "keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "usbmouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "Buttons" "8"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents" "On"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "touchpad"
        Driver      "synaptics"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/trackpad_evt"
        Option      "Protocol" "event"
       <Lots of options deleted>
EndSection
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

[Mick]

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On Monday 10 July 2006 05:57, Richard Fish wrote:

> Yeah, use 2 input device entries in xorg.conf, with the second one
> pointing at /dev/input/mice.  Just make sure to list both in the
> ServerLayout section.  Mine is setup with:

Sweet!  It works just as wanted it now.  :-)

This is what I have in my xorg.conf:
================================
Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "Mouse1" "AlwaysCore"
        Option  "VTSysReq" "true"
        Option "SuspendTime" "10"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "synaptics"
        Option      "Protocol" "SynPS/2"
        Option      "InputFashion" "Mouse"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option       "Name" "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
        Option       "SHMConfig" "on"
        Option       "Vendor" "0002"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping"      "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons"   "True"
        Option      "Buttons"   "3"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
        Identifier  "Mouse1"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
        Option      "InputFashion" "Mouse"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option       "Name" "GenPS/2 Genius Mouse"
        Option       "Vendor" "0002"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping"      "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons"   "False"
        Option      "Buttons"   "9"
EndSection
================================

Udev still seems to be happy with my settings recognising the devices that I 
plug in.  Not sure if using the right "Name" is important.  I found mine 
in /cat/bus/input/devices.

I also have a TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint, but I think that the synaptics driver 
picks this up anyway, so I haven't added it to my xorg.conf.
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