[gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Mick]

I've just tried to update world and this package has come up:
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[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
======================================

The thing is I have not installed any java on this machine - why does
it come up?  emerge -uptv does not show anything.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Saturday 24 June 2006 23:53, Mick wrote:
> I've just tried to update world and this package has come up:
> ======================================
> [ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
> ======================================
>
> The thing is I have not installed any java on this machine - why does
> it come up?  emerge -uptv does not show anything.

It would be so much easier to answer if you posted the actual output of 
whatever command came up with that and added --tree to that command. Be sure 
to include the command and it's output.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Mick]

On 24/06/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
> On Saturday 24 June 2006 23:53, Mick wrote:
> > I've just tried to update world and this package has come up:
> > ======================================
> > [ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
> > ======================================
> >
> > The thing is I have not installed any java on this machine - why does
> > it come up?  emerge -uptv does not show anything.
>
> It would be so much easier to answer if you posted the actual output of
> whatever command came up with that and added --tree to that command. Be sure
> to include the command and it's output.

Sure:
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# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r8 [6.8.2-r7]
USE="bitmap-fonts nls opengl pam sdk* sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts
xv -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
-insecure-drivers -ipv6 -minimal -mmx -nocxx -static -xprint" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-terms/xterm-215 [212-r3] USE="truetype unicode
-Xaw3d -toolbar" 765 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-wm/fluxbox-0.9.14-r2 [0.9.14-r1] USE="imlib kde
nls truetype -disableslit% -disabletoolbar% -gnome -xinerama" 0 kB
========================================

With the tree option:
========================================
# emerge -upDvt world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] x11-wm/fluxbox-0.9.14-r2 [0.9.14-r1] USE="imlib kde
nls truetype -disableslit% -disabletoolbar% -gnome -xinerama" 0 kB
[nomerge      ] net-ftp/kftpgrabber-0.6.0  USE="arts -debug -xinerama"
[nomerge      ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE="acl alsa arts cups
spell ssl tiff -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal
-kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -xinerama
-zeroconf"
[nomerge      ]   net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE="nls -doc -emacs -java"
[ebuild  N    ]    dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-terms/xterm-215 [212-r3] USE="truetype unicode
-Xaw3d -toolbar" 765 kB
[nomerge      ] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2  USE="X gpm -slang -static"
[ebuild     U ]  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r8 [6.8.2-r7]
USE="bitmap-fonts nls opengl pam sdk* sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts
xv -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
-insecure-drivers -ipv6 -minimal -mmx -nocxx -static -xprint" 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 781 kB
========================================

Unless the sdk USE flag I've set in my /etc/make.conf (I want to
install the gatos drivers) has something to do with it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 25 June 2006 02:06, Mick wrote:
> [nomerge      ] net-ftp/kftpgrabber-0.6.0  USE="arts -debug -xinerama"
> [nomerge      ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE="acl alsa arts cups
> spell ssl tiff -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal
> -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -xinerama
> -zeroconf"
> [nomerge      ]   net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE="nls -doc -emacs -java"
> [ebuild  N    ]    dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB

This tells you that kftpgrabber depends on kdelibs which depends on libidn 
which depends on java-config. All of those are mandatory dependencies so 
there is not much you can do about it unless you are willing to look into 
development... But java-config is not java so it shouldn't be a big deal 
either.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Alexander Skwar]

Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Sunday 25 June 2006 02:06, Mick wrote:
>> [nomerge      ] net-ftp/kftpgrabber-0.6.0  USE="arts -debug -xinerama"
>> [nomerge      ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE="acl alsa arts cups
>> spell ssl tiff -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal
>> -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -xinerama
>> -zeroconf"
>> [nomerge      ]   net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE="nls -doc -emacs -java"
>> [ebuild  N    ]    dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
> 
> This tells you that kftpgrabber depends on kdelibs which depends on libidn 
> which depends on java-config. All of those are mandatory dependencies so 
> there is not much you can do about it unless you are willing to look into 
> development... But java-config is not java so it shouldn't be a big deal 
> either.

On the other hand, he has set USE=-java for libidn (at least), so
why is it pulling in java-config? It doesn't make much sense, does
it? In the libidn ebuild, I find:

inherit java-pkg

And that's what pulling in java-config. Is there a way to wrap the
inherit around some "if" statements, so that "inherit java-pkg" is
only "executed" when "java" is set?

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Rumen Yotov]

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Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>> On Sunday 25 June 2006 02:06, Mick wrote:
>>> [nomerge      ] net-ftp/kftpgrabber-0.6.0  USE="arts -debug -xinerama"
>>> [nomerge      ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE="acl alsa arts cups
>>> spell ssl tiff -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal
>>> -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -xinerama
>>> -zeroconf"
>>> [nomerge      ]   net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE="nls -doc -emacs -java"
>>> [ebuild  N    ]    dev-java/java-config-1.2.11-r1  15 kB
>>
>> This tells you that kftpgrabber depends on kdelibs which depends on
>> libidn which depends on java-config. All of those are mandatory
>> dependencies so there is not much you can do about it unless you are
>> willing to look into development... But java-config is not java so it
>> shouldn't be a big deal either.
> 
> On the other hand, he has set USE=-java for libidn (at least), so
> why is it pulling in java-config? It doesn't make much sense, does
> it? In the libidn ebuild, I find:
> 
> inherit java-pkg
> 
> And that's what pulling in java-config. Is there a way to wrap the
> inherit around some "if" statements, so that "inherit java-pkg" is
> only "executed" when "java" is set?
> 
> Alexander Skwar
Hi,
IIRC portage still can't handle USE-flag dependencies, some
feature-requests are in Bugzilla. Devs are working though.
OT:there're at least two other alt. package managers in development, so
lets hope this is for good.
HTH.Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Mick]

On 25/06/06, Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
[snip . . . ]
> > On the other hand, he has set USE=-java for libidn (at least), so
> > why is it pulling in java-config? It doesn't make much sense, does
> > it? In the libidn ebuild, I find:

I suspect that it has something to do with the latest portage-2.1-r1
update or the one before.  Up until now the -java default USE flag
seemed to do the trick.

> IIRC portage still can't handle USE-flag dependencies, some
> feature-requests are in Bugzilla. Devs are working though.
> OT:there're at least two other alt. package managers in development, so
> lets hope this is for good.

Is ity worth me adding to a bug report?  Would you perhaps have a bug No handy?

Thanks for all your responses.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 25 June 2006 10:21, Mick wrote:
> I suspect that it has something to do with the latest portage-2.1-r1
> update or the one before.  Up until now the -java default USE flag
> seemed to do the trick.

It had nothing to do with portage. It had to do with a change in the java-pkg 
eclass.

> Is ity worth me adding to a bug report?  Would you perhaps have a bug No
> handy?

I didn't think so. I was wrong... ;) The dependency was removed two days ago 
in case you haven't noticed [1].

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137971

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Re: [gentoo-user] New java-config package with no java installed?

[Mick]

On 28/06/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
> On Sunday 25 June 2006 10:21, Mick wrote:

> > Is ity worth me adding to a bug report? Would you perhaps have a bug No
> > handy?
>
> I didn't think so. I was wrong... ;) The dependency was removed two days ago
> in case you haven't noticed [1].
>
> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137971

Thanks for letting me know.
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