From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R5hCu-0001Wl-31 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:00:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C5F21C214; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1794C21C08F for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-fx0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 2so4880190fxh.40 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:57:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=TxCbI06V/NtXAXJ4Vng6fBiyODVQvCsHESrGD9z7sRU=; b=IJEGnxdCY9N5njM5dACQrRFD+9/6hPwyANJ+8jrQaSgtPg2Byu6P3iarbpwLXSTgtu AKisZFPj0blH7G7aa35GVwfZ64Nork9CqO/Mfe9mbzNu0qHaTETeoAZkIGEEdMXQHysZ 38mzphtMBakbsE6cvpXEdhJoacfer2OPVeKpo= Received: by 10.223.37.18 with SMTP id v18mr5399043fad.98.1316451424626; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC74389.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.199.67.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a7sm22290481fam.22.2011.09.19.09.57.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:07:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3568725.rmbSIMCMo0@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/3.0.4; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <15326961.G4eK8O5RyY@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c3d0300d82f21ad7f704e2202df55ffe Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk: > > again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you > > can disregard all software ever written. > > This is why, when designing systems, you want as little complexity as > possible; the greater the complexity, the greater the incidence of > bugs. Yes, it's unavoidable that there are bugs, but lower bug counts > are better. > > (Not making a specific argument against D-Bus here, just the rhetorical > device.) yeah and if you simplified your system enough it is so hard to use it is not worth the time you waste on it. Every problem can be solved by another layer of abstraction A similar good sounding quote - but..... -- #163933