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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.15 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------89A494C4FFAEFD3F2B64C90D" X-Archives-Salt: 75e60ce9-9b1e-4a5b-b67c-5c88cb574195 X-Archives-Hash: 72ae9f04353b224a689ffe66f55e80da This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------89A494C4FFAEFD3F2B64C90D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:59 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:00:33 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > > > >> With my HDD: > > >> > > >>    # smartctl -x /dev/sda | grep -i 'sector size' > > >>    Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical > > > Or, with an NVMe drive: > > > > > > # smartctl -x /dev/nvme1n1 | grep -A2 'Supported LBA Sizes' > > > Supported LBA Sizes (NSID 0x1) > > > Id Fmt  Data  Metadt  Rel_Perf > > >  0 +     512       0         0 > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > When I run that command, sdd is my SDD drive, ironic I know.  Anyway, it > > doesn't show block sizes.  It returns nothing. > > > > root@fireball / # smartctl -x /dev/sdd  | grep -A2 'Supported LBA Sizes' > > root@fireball / # > > Note that all of these technologies, HDD, SDD, M.2, report different > things > and don't always report them the same way. This is an SDD in my  > Plex backup server: > > mark@science:~$ sudo smartctl -x /dev/sdb > [sudo] password for mark:   > smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.15.0-69-generic] (local > build) > Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, > www.smartmontools.org > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family:     Crucial/Micron Client SSDs > Device Model:     CT250MX500SSD1 > Serial Number:    1905E1E79C72 > LU WWN Device Id: 5 00a075 1e1e79c72 > Firmware Version: M3CR023 > User Capacity:    250,059,350,016 bytes [250 GB] > Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical > > In my case the physical block is 4096 bytes but  > addressable in 512 byte blocks. It appears that > yours is 512 byte physical blocks. > > [QUOTE] > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family:     Samsung based SSDs > Device Model:     Samsung SSD 870 EVO 500GB > Serial Number:    S6PWNXXXXXXXXXXX > LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 XXXXXXXXXX > Firmware Version: SVT01B6Q > User Capacity:    500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB] > Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physica > [QUOTE] So for future reference, let it format with the default?  I'm also curious if when it creates the file system it will notice this and adjust automatically. It might.  Maybe? Dale :-)  :-)  P. S. Dang squirrels got in my greenhouse and dug up my seedlings.  Squirrel hunting is next on my agenda.  :-@ --------------89A494C4FFAEFD3F2B64C90D Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:59 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:00:33 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >
> >> With my HDD:
> >>
> >>    # smartctl -x /dev/sda | grep -i 'sector size'
> >>    Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
> > Or, with an NVMe drive:
> >
> > # smartctl -x /dev/nvme1n1 | grep -A2 'Supported LBA Sizes'
> > Supported LBA Sizes (NSID 0x1)
> > Id Fmt  Data  Metadt  Rel_Perf
> >  0 +     512       0         0
> >
> > :)
> >
>
> When I run that command, sdd is my SDD drive, ironic I know.  Anyway, it
> doesn't show block sizes.  It returns nothing.
>
> root@fireball / # smartctl -x /dev/sdd  | grep -A2 'Supported LBA Sizes'
> root@fireball / #

Note that all of these technologies, HDD, SDD, M.2, report different things
and don't always report them the same way. This is an SDD in my 
Plex backup server:

mark@science:~$ sudo smartctl -x /dev/sdb
[sudo] password for mark:  
smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.15.0-69-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Crucial/Micron Client SSDs
Device Model:     CT250MX500SSD1
Serial Number:    1905E1E79C72
LU WWN Device Id: 5 00a075 1e1e79c72
Firmware Version: M3CR023
User Capacity:    250,059,350,016 bytes [250 GB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical

In my case the physical block is 4096 bytes but 
addressable in 512 byte blocks. It appears that
yours is 512 byte physical blocks.

[QUOTE]
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Samsung based SSDs
Device Model:     Samsung SSD 870 EVO 500GB
Serial Number:    S6PWNXXXXXXXXXXX
LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 XXXXXXXXXX
Firmware Version: SVT01B6Q
User Capacity:    500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physica
[QUOTE]


So for future reference, let it format with the default?  I'm also curious if when it creates the file system it will notice this and adjust automatically. It might.  Maybe?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S. Dang squirrels got in my greenhouse and dug up my seedlings.  Squirrel hunting is next on my agenda.  :-@
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