From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123421389E2 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E838E08AB; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41F89E0886 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.136] (helo=smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1F8h-0001uH-3N for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:59:43 +0100 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1F8g-00057G-O6 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:59:43 +0100 Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [10.20.13.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3742B4B for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:59:39 +0100 (CET) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:59:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3523113.1SsdrhJ9RV@andromeda> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (Linux/3.16.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <87sige4drt.fsf@msi.mackdanz.net> References: <6065427.s3vDGgfdQI@andromeda> <87sige4drt.fsf@msi.mackdanz.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: b94c8e81-83fd-4798-b479-53177b9df716 X-Archives-Hash: c01b6e8734e59e1f34d86e71d36daf04 On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 07:16:54 AM Erik Mackdanz wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 05:46:30 PM Erik Mackdanz wrote: > >> Heiko Baums writes: > >> > I don't know if, but I don't think that, it will work with > >> > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau. > >> > >> I used bumblebee for quite a while. It worked okay, but every upgrade I > >> would have to fiddle with it again. > >> > >> I switched to the Nouveau driver and I'm very glad I did. "Conventional > >> wisdom" says Nouveau quality is lower than Nvidia, but I found it worked > >> better on some things (Second Life). > >> > >> As someone else pointed out, with Nouveau the GPU remains on all the > >> time consuming power. This is the downside. > >> > >> If ease-of-use and/or open licensing are more important to you than top > >> rendering quality and power consumption, consider using Nouveau. > > > > I've been using bumblebee for over a year now. (First laptop with Optimus) > > and not had any issues. It always works as advertised. > > > > What issues did you experience? > > I remember more than once changing bumblebee.conf during an upgrade, > when the service failed to start. This is over two years ago now, so I > don't remember any more than that. A lot can happen in 2 years. (For instance a fork and complete re-write of the codebase) > You could tell me that bumblebee is now stable and rock-solid, but I > still wouldn't switch from Nouveau. I've had a good experience, and > open source matters to me. Bumblebee also seems to support Nouveau. > On top of that, this laptop has only a year or so left before I replace > it, and I know now to avoid Optimus entirely in the future. That is your choice, I like the idea behind it and have no issues with the way it currently works. -- Joost