From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvLCh-0006qv-4J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:15:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 482C3E00B0; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.177]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16820E00B0 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so143929ele.1 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Sa8XA1X3uOTAWYlgtgltOKz5W/BhF9d/wKdhTi1XRKI=; b=CguquUEzLlrRk4Z3Z28utIEBkJZ1ZzJwZCvYb2TnWPpoYGZnJnUNcO0lfUAaPCPnl1 /4f92X6/3sPc0lsKx8hnlNNrIpbObLEufNEeeB8jFxBJtTMDZ5/tOuxuqDIwjSZgJ6HH sHIwwU/kOjHZjZ8Lo4lZcsicKUVbTUeh7/eOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=N8bC9l7foMAG/3Wqu+lHaZwLC2EAt6nY+DTPwy46qa3/Ym0vypXuTDSTaAevI6V984 SYMDyPxv0a8psGj6ypVVD7wPgIoIgJuUMiMAWT9P+B5aQjVtlCqIA3Y5qx9wFVWW/QmE jVQYkjLn5oftnEsgy5JoWlDL4kDtEC2O5VJyY= Received: by 10.151.109.17 with SMTP id l17mr17466048ybm.20.1225325755518; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.198.18 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <350fc7cf0810291715q6a0aaeebmbfbaa2ccf60e65f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:55 -0700 From: "Andrey Falko" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53994_2615567.1225325755504" References: <58965d8a0810291553x50e4068ehc58834dfdbce285b@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291609v335f4909nbcd90ab7d368cb5d@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291623j5fb5608rf311cd0d2a371d2a@mail.gmail.com> <350fc7cf0810291657t20e74d6ag70b05bf8e23973ba@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: b3aaa0e4-1e52-4504-88d4-4bc8f8b46451 X-Archives-Hash: e5859630597778c15ae0a0a235f8e44d ------=_Part_53994_2615567.1225325755504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: > > > > Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage > need > > to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this > really > > even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. > > > One's bug is another's feature. > libc in uname is honestly WTF but this begs the real question: why > doesn't portage (emerge and repoman to be specific) simply get the > output of uname -a ? It's not written in C, you don't have to mess > around with 5-6 fd's to get the needed data. > > And I think that this is both a design bug and a red herring. > > By the way, should I make a bug report with a patch to remove this issue? > Making it selectable via FEATURES requires more digging around in portage. > -- > Andrey Vul > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > Maybe we should ask gentoo-dev? The reason not to use uname -a straight up is because it forces portage to depend on coreutils. Portage ebuilds currently do not depend on it unless userland_GNU is enabled. I'm split, I prefer code to always be as easy as possible, yet I don't like unnecessary dependencies. ------=_Part_53994_2615567.1225325755504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need
> to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this really
> even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really.
>
One's bug is another's feature.
libc in uname is honestly WTF but this begs the real question: why
doesn't portage (emerge and repoman to be specific) simply get the
output of uname -a ? It's not written in C, you don't have to mess
around with 5-6 fd's to get the needed data.

And I think that this is both a design bug and a red herring.

By the way, should I make a bug report with a patch to remove this issue?
Making it selectable via FEATURES requires more digging around in portage.
--
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?


Maybe we should ask gentoo-dev? The reason not to use uname -a straight up is because it forces portage to depend on coreutils. Portage ebuilds currently do not depend on it unless userland_GNU is enabled. I'm split, I prefer code to always be as easy as possible, yet I don't like unnecessary dependencies.
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