From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C4313877A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90924E0AF9; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C2DE09D5 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1u6y-0000CA-WA for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:12:24 +0200 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1u6y-0002HZ-Mg for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:12:24 +0200 Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [213.19.196.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2370D4C for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:11:04 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:11:03 +0200 Message-ID: <3444022.2QCjfBFgDO@andromeda> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (Linux/3.12.21-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1404205619.4257.1@numa-i> References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53B27845.1020901@gmail.com> <1404205619.4257.1@numa-i> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.8 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982,TW_HD=0.077 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 360dc1bb-3fc1-4a0c-b549-67deef77c0f6 X-Archives-Hash: 20dc67907e803fe487db94f52a8dd5cf On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:06:59 AM Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 07/01/2014 10:58:45 AM, Dale wrote: > > Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > On 07/01/2014 10:30:44 AM, Dale wrote: > > >> I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around > > > > to > > > > >> looking yet. I didn't know they have a SATA version. I plan to > > > > avoid > > > > >> USB if I can. From my understanding, eSATA can be hotplugged and > > > > I have > > > > >> a couple of those connections. > > > > > > I 'believe' that eSATA is dead - just look how few products are > > > available. > > > I have 3 USB-3 drives which are very fast (more than 100 MB/sec) and > > > if your motherboard doesn't have an USB-3 adapter, yet, it's very > > > > cheap. > > > > > Helmut > > > > I do have a few USB3 connectors. I just figured USB would be a good > > bit > > slower. Plus, can USB power a 3.5" hard drive nowadays? > > Probably not. All of my external USB3 disks have a separate power > supply. I only know of 2.5" USB-drivers that are powered via the same USB-cable. Never seen 3.5" ones that are USB-powered. I use 2.5" drives for my backups, as they are designed for laptop use, I have the feeling they are a bit more robust when it comes to accidental bumps. > > root@fireball / # hdparm -tT /dev/sdb > > > > /dev/sdb: > > Timing cached reads: 6604 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3303.39 MB/sec > > Timing buffered disk reads: 542 MB in 3.01 seconds = 180.33 MB/sec > > > > root@fireball / # > > Try a real life example like dd. I have seen the above mentioned speed > on disks with a file system on it which does limit the speed anyway. +1 -- Joost