From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGECp-0000Of-EJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:34:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57A09E037E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F987E037E for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so16334871ywm.46 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w2XzF4Fk7WIjUwfc8Vw8Po3a8eIaYEyu8Z8hk8rX1sw=; b=uLIeDhHkaQI/kG/6b80aNOP25klgheE1nJzEW4dVILLopVKB6UfU+Df4tv5V/gg3Ch BKjcyiGkZtDjjft0/0rxQo20B4ZMiz0S/1R5jR3LHR5uVZWnVkizTdCZH0JkkaX7Lgkj LaJBkpLdTr/GvBJ4U1iUvvG71+5S+CdMVOYvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=roRpsG+QqpkvsUjyM0AOrXA9CRFadqodPF/hDnnPtnHfii6OMRwrl67xmEZTcIqQ9F bdmuX3gKp3gT1r+E3CnwmNQeHRnJoY92wHnJvj/hLQO0j/vzEa/Sl/58TlW2EvDumcQu OeVsbxisJw5VJUWl8sBmbrtNnoMkxLhNAsQwI= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.89.8 with SMTP id m8mr6332674agb.23.1245080081731; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9acccfe50906150744j4ac7d4buafb529115f1de1ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <358eca8f0906150408n443e9a49u8411e32443f62a2a@mail.gmail.com> <4A36342B.8020400@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <358eca8f0906150530u7af6392bs7707f9095d9c2af7@mail.gmail.com> <9acccfe50906150731k6a6c4dbh13823bdfa002e735@mail.gmail.com> <9acccfe50906150744j4ac7d4buafb529115f1de1ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:34:41 -0300 Message-ID: <342e1090906150834k6a41a989kc93f1feb7358a1a4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVG plugin From: Daniel da Veiga To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b0b64066-981c-450e-a2d2-379533925763 X-Archives-Hash: 07069145e32f1beead2b779118bab148 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote= : >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrot= e: >>> On 06/15/2009 03:30 PM, Mick wrote: >>>> >>>> 2009/6/15 Florian Philipp: >>>>> >>>>> Mick schrieb: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Trying to view a web page I produced some yonks ago, which at that t= he >>>>>> time would utilise the Adobe SVG plugin to render a gantt chart. =A0= The >>>>>> header of the file went like this: >>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303/DTD/svg-20000303-styla= ble.dtd"> >>>>>> >>>>> style=3D"font-family:'Arial';font-size:8"> >>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>>>> >>>>>> Adobe seem to have abandoned further development. =A0Any idea what I= can >>>>>> use to render such a graphic (image/svg+xml) in a browser? >>>>> >>>>> Firefox supports svg out of the box, now. Maybe you need the svg >>>>> USE-flag for x11-libs/cairo. >>>> >>>> Hmm, mozilla-firefox does not have an svg flag. =A0Anyway, I have svg = in >>>> my /etc/make.conf and also have cairo installed: >>>> >>>> [I] x11-libs/cairo >>>> >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0Installed versions: =A01.8.6-r1!t(18:54:43 03/17/09)(X glit= z opengl >>>> svg -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -xcb) >>>> >>>> It's not just FF, but also Opera and Konqueror cannot render it either >>>> and ask to download a plugin. >>> >>> The code in your webpage is probably wrong. =A0You should just use a no= rmal >>> HTML header instead of this weird ">> =A0Embed SVG images inside the page with a PNG fallback like this: >>> >>> >> width=3D"PIXELS"> >>> =A0 =A0 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> I tried that Adobe site in FF on gentoo and ubuntu with the same >> non-result. =A0On Vista, I tried FF, Opera, Safari and IE 8, with varied >> forms of failure. =A0Interestingly, Opera at least offered to start >> inkscape to view the image, which succeeded. =A0The text on that image >> suggested it's specific to an adobe plugin -- which it plugs of >> course. >> >> Does somebody have a web page with SVGs that normal browsers with >> non-proprietary plugins/viewers _can_ view? > > I looked a little further. =A0I thought it interesting that Safari could > also not view the Adobe SVG thingy. =A0Moreover, > http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ shows they've dropped support > for their viewer, and the most recent blurb promoting SVG relates to > Illustrator CS2, when CS4 is the current version. =A0I have CS4, but > haven't learned to use it yet. > > Is there a future in SVG? > AFAIK, SVG has a future. Adobe's SVG, on the other hand, seems broken. My router firmware (Tomato) uses SVG for graphics and everything work fine on Firefox. That SVG example from Adobe's site doesn't work. You can safely assume they're using SVG in a way only THEIR plugin would read. Reminds me of PDF, where Adobe completely broke standards, I have some PDFs that every other PDF Reader I could install, even online standalone apps can read, but Adobe Acrobat can't, and it yells the file is broken --=20 Daniel da Veiga