From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MFEM8-0001NQ-On for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:32:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7735E074C; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114FE074C for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so7805yxe.32 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X46pyJrAovAIAjVaS1MtYbaObp60Rxfw20MG/ijOpY4=; b=L03xB5BYlzEYg/ai33NdiKqsM677VWkk6qLazeQ0z1QPbZMi7xChNV7vyZ0DzVJIFP DrB/QTultoq4V/Baj2tn6B24zaoyrK4Zn9TmVdGQ+5bvrSH4hHqh5unGTF/QIzL0Q15d 6N0sJW9zXcO0tFjkgnd5Tu8HHMdGRMZX1E0ig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qq3ZNQt8BMkIGY49bsV0yQwMGgmQuIpKV1ZPYbrIOzt/4+gG9T4NcURY5M8FoAcyc4 jSLYGY04OhlDWflgxpmuGPta84RxyXDKjOm89J41OvorlcMI2dVxG+UZWx7LT8xY4YuT P4GFtPhGrdLh3FViOonTEsLJR+zyomRQpdkek= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.115.13 with SMTP id n13mr3543483agc.16.1244842328761; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:32:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0906120945o67b34e39veaad57f1a578d4fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A326635.3020303@j-schmitz.net> <58965d8a0906120740t20185896k79ba0a668d47eb59@mail.gmail.com> <88EF37E8-DF4E-4830-8B32-754EC40565EB@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <5bdc1c8b0906120945o67b34e39veaad57f1a578d4fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:32:08 -0300 Message-ID: <342e1090906121432t4fb1606el5f81b43a48f76864@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing From: Daniel da Veiga To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f4b4c701-f44a-41a1-a85b-6884e4041821 X-Archives-Hash: b88fa50264eb9872aa3bfa4dfc4aa3c4 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:45, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Stroller wrote: >> >> On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justin wrote: >>>> >>>> Harry Putnam schrieb: >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without >>>>> syncing my OS? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ >>> >>> also http://packages.gentoo.org/ >>> >>> or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest >> >> The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on >> one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in >> world. >> >> >> Harry: >> >> I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a >> /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the >> original tree back if you want to. >> >> It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If >> the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are >> unimportant. >> >> Stroller. > > I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One > problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever > it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage > that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also. > Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed > so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it > does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that > requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if > there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were > going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I > understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that > way. > > This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for > instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI > drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the > time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running, > and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm > doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and > then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic. > Portage keeps a copy of installed packages under /var/db/pkg, AFAIK. So, even if sync removes it from the tree, you can move it from /var to your local overlay and keep using it... If you are doying a fresh install, you can get the old ebuilds from the attic. -- Daniel da Veiga