From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L2UGw-0006tY-Jl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:21:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61583E01E5; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F0E01E5 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so3263713rvf.46 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:21:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZwuQJfrFFJp2AML8dhTLNpdRyflCCzzGFmfBM0XK3FI=; b=OIj2S1+0sY4YAUp8Km0pVouxJLz9RniB0q99SlhMwFKc7ycdOhkMkIdg2bu2QwTsEY wAxMegwSQQze8EhxpmUyU3/SUBtTM41vGundfRCGKUwxfdZno6CGebWRIflZH6FkOL74 rJ6Csa/APqIId1jR2+75GUBi2lUuuJ3VNTGNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=S+HKHY+LKHO6wO9LfPdOldCR8oY2Arc3i3N6LSh/IPsrjgQYsYT+sdxiA3MltOa5KD 4ldJtwzjnF3vw/MV7YS7PHx5WNTp6gsRWKADExVvT+rtdnt+OC73k+S0G7lRWka1PgRR tdSSwt77cSw+urF2Ptnrm1NTq78aBgZ7UvlOk= Received: by 10.141.5.3 with SMTP id h3mr41356rvi.129.1227028912012; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.142.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:21:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <342e1090811180921ycbe52cbqdc9d52ca760eb193@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:21:51 -0200 From: "Daniel da Veiga" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of all kde components In-Reply-To: <200811181238.01636.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <87myfx8st1.fsf@newsguy.com> <200811180752.21649.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> <20081118110737.GA28448@marvin.heimnetz.local> <200811181238.01636.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Archives-Salt: 803f0edc-f8a1-4785-a38a-def517f6be8f X-Archives-Hash: ec4fb199b665cd4526f5b2acc20acb69 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 18 November 2008, Sebastian G=FCnther wrote: >> * Dirk Heinrichs (dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com) [18.11.08 07:53]: >> > Am Dienstag 18 November 2008 07:14:02 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: >> > > I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo >> > > compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost >> > > jacking around with kde during upgrades. >> > >> > Hmm, you already complained about installation (or compile) time in th= e >> > cfg- update thread. Why did you choose Gentoo, if you don't like >> > compiling stuff? >> >> Because it is about choice, and if you choose, not to use KDE, then you >> can do it. >> >> You can even choose not to use qt, and leave a whole bunch of bloated >> libs out. >> >> > BTW: I run KDE updates in the night. >> >> Well, I never compile KDE. One big monster like Gnome is enough... >> >> > Bye... >> > >> > Dirk >> >> SEB@STI@N > > so you decided to install the even bigger, more bloated monster? > smart choice! > > But why attacking Dirk for his valid question? The OP has complained in t= wo > threads about compiling. If you don't like compiling, gentoo is not for y= ou. > It doesn't seem like a complain, if you read it like you would really answe= r it. It wast just a comment to justify the question. I don't see a reason to question his comment. Gentoo is about choice (not just compiling), and this thread is about Getting rid of all KDE components. Someone goes off-topic and all of a sudden the OP feels attacked (I would feel the same). If you're not going to answer the question, don't send it to the list. I have removed KDE long time ago, and right now I have most of it back so I can use one or two programs (I just love K3B, never used KDE as a WM, but K3B kicks ass, and Gentoo, as I said, is about choice). It seems to me that if you remove all kde basic components, all dependencies (its the case of your arts list) would be target for removal by emerge --depclean... Run revdep-rebuild and maybe check the -e option of emerge to get rid of whatever is left (or wants to come back). --=20 Daniel da Veiga