From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org)
by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
(envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-82904-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>)
id 1KQnsU-0006T7-Pd
for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:36:55 +0000
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2127E04EF;
Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:36:16 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.152])
by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819E9E04EF
for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:36:16 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so38383yxp.46
for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:36:16 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to
:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type
:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references;
bh=dIYCNawmkNKuP8h1V2ouC+EBew/cPgWJ5PtggJ+tnYs=;
b=rxfl94Vu9DuUMvivTx3yb1EyvXo+5B3L0WKbrTTdAhNhAiruJVEqoO8wHlWAinfFXp
fXoH20lfNcZONuhfB0GLhSerXBkekAlEkzym9quuzYE+ssWTQKyZMFXLqJjFIWBT5M8m
yBw7PRtsYimETl0IxOj0Veonpliqq2/qq6Z2k=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version
:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition
:references;
b=jS1uH3n98DXDlHspF7oGC5R5UJcyN+4b9MGopeB5ymMaBWz/pnLAkYJnnCAem1DGQe
CpjdnyuJBidl1P7E7egVh/7w6IBvxu5iPK1JHuuGLZJLK73cKlAtXeHK4Lxy8wOI8Rcx
6EG2VjIopsVO/Q2uwNWS/vi0hzXgXgTAwENUc=
Received: by 10.150.204.12 with SMTP id b12mr3811105ybg.171.1218047775154;
Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.65.11.16 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <342e1090808061136p60a84731j4cef96ba049cbc69@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:36:15 -0300
From: "Daniel da Veiga" <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
In-Reply-To: <4899EAF8.2010202@gmail.com>
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
References: <543f3b9c0808051845y5cb8349n17938a7765ae8cac@mail.gmail.com>
<342e1090808060628l5777cda2l6c145973ef1a83f1@mail.gmail.com>
<6DCBEFA4-371C-4E5F-B496-63020F5B482B@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
<342e1090808060827g1ade98d8i897813d066dcd04b@mail.gmail.com>
<1218037242.5106.10.camel@localhost> <48999238.5010205@gmail.com>
<342e1090808061110v5ac820a8wc9581c9c48a9f13f@mail.gmail.com>
<4899EAF8.2010202@gmail.com>
X-Archives-Salt: 651bf0a5-f8ba-458a-856b-610187b1d754
X-Archives-Hash: a178f670a96cf7adb447dbb9623fe75d
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Albert Hopkins wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't Gmail support SSL? My email provider provides support for SSL
>>>> connections (via HTTP, LDAP, & POP).
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case then it would be extremely difficult (you will need
>>>> to "fake" the server's host keys). Furthermore, the ethics of such a
>>>> practice is questionable. For which case I would side on blocking
>>>> outside emails altogether rather than get into a situation where you
>>>> have to justify sniffing someone's personal bank transactions, e.g.
>>>>
>>>> -a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> gmail is only ssl on sign in if you go through webmail. After that it's
>>> all in the clear. POP and IMAP are running securely however (which is
>>> why I check my stuff via imap)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you simply change the URL to https on gmail, you are using SSL.
>> The default is not to use it, so, you gotta type it yourself.
>>
>> https://mail.google.com/mail
>>
>>
>
> Has it always been that way? I could have sworn that only the login was SSL
> and everything else was in the clear (granted, I don't think I ever tried to
> change it to https). Live & Learn
>
I don't know if it was always that way, what I know is that maybe 2
years ago some machines with IE6 couldn't reach gmail, and a quick
search showed that switching to HTTPS would solve it. As I knew that
was also giving me encryption, I began to type the complete address
with "s" wherever I use my account.
--
Daniel da Veiga