From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-82751-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1KOd8u-0005Zq-E6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:44:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FBBDE0452; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D63E0452 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id w53so350438pyg.25 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=iMyOmhgtx4mpkxpCsaEmCgqgOcnjh/NcOaizOLikImM=; b=XYCP5hApKkUR5uZmYR9l+4Le0zCmLA3c7jk5d5Y/rxCQQ66jVnu8mRcrrbc5XA67cb gG2UFL/M31FmjE5Q1Ea0d6DoL9y9YQBJKadppoDvhTRUTw0/CcKSaDVthMNmlOycRBUh 9TkhaERztyVH1k8P9YKaUYO3gJaeaKWmbeS7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=K2dsMexaKZ6NE1sKx5iDHiacoW+dNbjA4FLM1eQjCGmHCVQnqrqih3T31g2WEcpTsa zSVwqozE24xDGgqxK03WHuaB84qMBSFiNQV5Dh/UEMMhz5n2hlmBUhCOtudD1Ct0PSbc 4ZGeafEdq9WLrtxj22CmZ22pG0hHD53jUEyJ4= Received: by 10.65.250.11 with SMTP id c11mr1297053qbs.99.1217529603713; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.11.16 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <342e1090807311140v3168b57fm71ff123ced323b88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:40:03 -0300 From: "Daniel da Veiga" <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move instalation from one system to another one. In-Reply-To: <g6ss02$vts$1@ger.gmane.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200807301325.49352.Platoali@gmail.com> <20080730103405.GA5620@marvin.heimnetz.local> <20080731181202.87e69a0b.nicolas.s-dev@laposte.net> <342e1090807311007n43d09f42vc5d7c6fe885a858a@mail.gmail.com> <g6ss02$vts$1@ger.gmane.org> X-Archives-Salt: 397e1abe-b76c-4d43-b72b-5515be7f8a46 X-Archives-Hash: c2fdfff0ac9dc2ea0ec5e96d4f063efa On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote: > Daniel da Veiga wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht >> <nicolas.s-dev@laposte.net> wrote: >>> >>> Sebastian G=FCnther a =E9crit: >>> >>>> If you want such functionality, use Debian or Ubuntu. >>> >>> Or just use the good C*FLAGS and kernel options. >>> >> >> Nicolas is right, you can (at your own risk, of course) do a migration >> like this, so "DON'T" is not really the only option, and changing >> distros is NOT an option in most cases. Gentoo is perfectly capable of >> that. >> >> Change flags in make.conf for generic compatible ones, compile a new >> kernel (I used genkernel for the migration, and compiled a specific >> kernel for the new machine later), emerge -e world and transfer the >> system (I used rsync, and had to deal with some network issues), >> everything worked (after some fine tunning for the new hardware) for >> me. > > Yeah, but that way you're doing emerge -e world twice. One on the old > system, and one on the new system (to optimize for the specific CPU again= ; > -march=3Dnative). It's usually faster to install from scratch and only > transfer your setting to the new system. > Yes, but still, both emerges may run while you work, so that's not wasted time, while on a new install, your machine is useless till you get all that you need running (that's the compilation time for X, an office suite, a window manager), and after that, you gotta transfer all your files and settings (that may be tedious), and all of this takes a time you could use to work... All I'm saying is that you really don't need to start from scratch, I personally find it more productive and fast (not to mention less boring) to prepare and transfer the whole install, and only configure the new hardware (that is part of a normal new install, so, you can't avoid that), instead of waiting for compilations to end so you can use packages on your new machine. Besides, I'm letting the official portage tool do its job... Anyway, it is MHO. In some cases, this may fail and a install from scratch is the only option left. But I never had this bad luck. --=20 Daniel da Veiga