[gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Daniel da Veiga]

Hello list,

I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It boots
perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install process
goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads the files,
goes to the message "OK, booting the kernel." and just hangs there. I
used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying to compile it
manually to see if it will work.

Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array
controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and
sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving "b"
untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running.

Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 01 March 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It
> boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install
> process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads
> the files, goes to the message "OK, booting the kernel." and just
> hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying
> to compile it manually to see if it will work.
>
> Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array
> controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and
> sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving "b"
> untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running.
>
> Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines?

Not this specific model, but I would start by comparing the boot command 
and modules loaded from the Minimal CD with what you are trying to use 
when booting the installed OS.

Supplying some error messages, command lines and even a relevant config 
file or two at this point might be found to be useful by those inclined 
to help you out of this predicament.......


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Saturday 01 March 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>   
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It
>> boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install
>> process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads
>> the files, goes to the message "OK, booting the kernel." and just
>> hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying
>> to compile it manually to see if it will work.
>>
>> Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array
>> controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and
>> sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving "b"
>> untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running.
>>
>> Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines?
>>     
>
> Not this specific model, but I would start by comparing the boot command 
> and modules loaded from the Minimal CD with what you are trying to use 
> when booting the installed OS.
>
> Supplying some error messages, command lines and even a relevant config 
> file or two at this point might be found to be useful by those inclined 
> to help you out of this predicament.......
>
>
>   

I *think* I have one of these old boat anchors out in my shop.  I'm not 
sure if it still boots or not but I may could get you a .config file for 
the kernel if you have no luck any other way.  I say 'any other way' 
cause I would have to drag that monster in the house and hook it back up 
to the network to access it. 

Let me know if all else fails.  I'll check the model before hooking the 
tractor and chain to it.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Daniel da Veiga]

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>  > On Saturday 01 March 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>  >
>  >> Hello list,
>  >>
>  >> I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It
>  >> boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install
>  >> process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads
>  >> the files, goes to the message "OK, booting the kernel." and just
>  >> hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying
>  >> to compile it manually to see if it will work.
>  >>
>  >> Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array
>  >> controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and
>  >> sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving "b"
>  >> untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running.
>  >>
>  >> Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines?
>  >>
>  >
>  > Not this specific model, but I would start by comparing the boot command
>  > and modules loaded from the Minimal CD with what you are trying to use
>  > when booting the installed OS.
>  >
>  > Supplying some error messages, command lines and even a relevant config
>  > file or two at this point might be found to be useful by those inclined
>  > to help you out of this predicament.......
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>  I *think* I have one of these old boat anchors out in my shop.  I'm not
>  sure if it still boots or not but I may could get you a .config file for
>  the kernel if you have no luck any other way.  I say 'any other way'
>  cause I would have to drag that monster in the house and hook it back up
>  to the network to access it.
>
>  Let me know if all else fails.  I'll check the model before hooking the
>  tractor and chain to it.  LOL
>

Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
would work).

Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.

Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Dale]

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>
> Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
> forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
> happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
> would work).
>
> Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
> a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
>
> Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
> the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
> damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
>   

There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.  
If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix 
on a hard drive too.

I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old 
rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it 
across the floor.  LOL

I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.  
I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that 
thing in the house.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Daniel da Veiga]

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>  >
>  > Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
>  > forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
>  > happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
>  > would work).
>  >
>  > Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
>  > a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
>  >
>  > Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
>  > the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
>  > damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
>  >
>
>  There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.
>  If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix
>  on a hard drive too.
>
>  I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old
>  rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it
>  across the floor.  LOL
>
>  I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.
>  I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that
>  thing in the house.
>

Well, thanks for the help guys.
When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It
seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious
support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support...
I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it
wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh...

Thanks again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Dale]

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>   
>> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
>>  > forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
>>  > happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
>>  > would work).
>>  >
>>  > Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
>>  > a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
>>  >
>>  > Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
>>  > the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
>>  > damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
>>  >
>>
>>  There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.
>>  If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix
>>  on a hard drive too.
>>
>>  I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old
>>  rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it
>>  across the floor.  LOL
>>
>>  I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.
>>  I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that
>>  thing in the house.
>>
>>     
>
> Well, thanks for the help guys.
> When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It
> seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious
> support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support...
> I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it
> wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh...
>
> Thanks again.
>
>   

Just to clarify, you can boot from the hard drive and it is working now?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Daniel da Veiga]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>  > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>  >
>  >> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the
>  >>  > forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was
>  >>  > happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it
>  >>  > would work).
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling
>  >>  > a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot
>  >>  > the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this
>  >>  > damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes...
>  >>  >
>  >>
>  >>  There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how.
>  >>  If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way.  I read you can put Knoppix
>  >>  on a hard drive too.
>  >>
>  >>  I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old
>  >>  rig.  I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it
>  >>  across the floor.  LOL
>  >>
>  >>  I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy?  I think the floppy works.
>  >>  I'll check on that in a little bit.  May save me from dragging that
>  >>  thing in the house.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  > Well, thanks for the help guys.
>  > When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It
>  > seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious
>  > support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support...
>  > I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it
>  > wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh...
>  >
>  > Thanks again.
>  >
>  >
>
>  Just to clarify, you can boot from the hard drive and it is working now?
>

Yeah, its booting from the hard drive and working just fine.
No need for the chain and tractor anymore.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600

[Dale]

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, its booting from the hard drive and working just fine.
> No need for the chain and tractor anymore.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>   

OK.  Part of me likes to work on that thing.  I just would hate to have 
to install KDE 4 on it.  It does have 4 200MHz CPUs tho.  It does pretty 
good for a OLLLLLLLLLDDDDDD rig.

Glad you got it working tho.

Dale

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